Downtown Baseball Stadium

[DColeKC]

Thank you. This view stuff is being out of control

Views matter. I'm not sure where they fall on the priority list but if two sites are tied on all major categories and it comes down to a great view out of the park that showcases the city vs a view that's lackluster, the site with the view wins.

It matters for the fan experience and matters even more for the TV broadcast. People should watch a home game on TV in other markets and have it drive interest in visiting our city, not furthering preconceived notions of us being a flyover city which is what you see now looking out of the K.

It's like the coin toss in deciding who goes to the playoffs. That low.

As a sports guy and a city guy and a guy that travels to MLB parks (only 9 current parks left) I can confidently say I've never once watched another team's broadcast and prioritized my travels to those cities. That's silliness.

Sure, as someone that works in the space and also likes sports and also travels to stadiums, I disagree but hear your personal opinion.

According to some polling I've seen as it relates to what fans want and value in MLB stadiums, it shakes out like this... and I'm not putting it in my own order to prove a point, I'm copying and pasting directly from the latest emails from a company we hired to conduct the polling. Here is their quick summary.

1. Scenic Views: Fans appreciate stadiums with picturesque backdrops, like the Gateway Arch at Busch Stadium in St. Louis or the downtown views from Comerica Park in Detroit.
2. Modern Amenities: Updated seating, clear sight-lines, and modern amenities are crucial. Newer stadiums like Globe Life Field (Texas Rangers) offer these features but sometimes lack exterior charm.
3. Affordability: Reasonably priced tickets and food options enhance the overall fan experience.
4. Atmosphere: Engaging environments created by passionate fans, like those at Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia, significantly contribute to a stadium's appeal.
5. Location and Accessibility: Convenient locations, preferably in downtown areas, are favored for easy access and enhanced pre-and post-game activities

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/264 ... iful-views

https://www.santosfootballplanet.com/ar ... -stadiums/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 978962007/

[KCPowercat]

I do not believe that is in order. If it is I question the validity of the polling methodology.

[shinatoo]

Everyone hates views, and it's never used by this forum as a hit on Kauffman Stadium.

[KCPowercat]

Everyone hates views, and it's never used by this forum as a hit on Kauffman Stadium.

Nobody said that. to say it's above affordability? Modern Amenities? Accessibility? In this city? Come on.

[DColeKC]

Everyone hates views, and it's never used by this forum as a hit on Kauffman Stadium.

Nobody said that. to say it's above affordability? Modern Amenities? Accessibility? In this city? Come on.

The poll was not exclusive to this region. I'm haven't dove into the full data, that's just how the company, who is a highly respected data collection company summarized the findings.

The questions were about what fans desire in a baseball stadium as it pertains to overall fan experience and rankings. I'm sure if the questions were about what are the biggest factors in ticket buying decision making, views would be further down or not even on the list.

[Highlander]

Everyone hates views, and it's never used by this forum as a hit on Kauffman Stadium.

Nobody said that. to say it's above affordability? Modern Amenities? Accessibility? In this city? Come on.

Is affordability even a stadium-related thing? Should it be even included regarding what people want in a stadium? It's more franchise dependent and especially supply/demand dependent.

[TheUrbanRoo]

Been wondering recently what a playoff run for the Royals, which appears increasingly likely, would do to change the tide on the stadium vote. Definitely will give Sherman more political capital to work with.

[TheUrbanRoo]

Mike Kehoe won the GOP primary for MO Governor, so this is a *massive* boost to the efforts of keeping the Chiefs/Royals in Missouri and securing the funding. He was the only Republican backing team funding from the state. This should help teams have some clarity of where to go now with the state government.

[KCPowercat]

How about the D winning tonight?

[TheUrbanRoo]

How about the D winning tonight?

Crystal Quade won, and she also supports the Chiefs/Royals incentive plans.

Basically now we are locked into support for the project either way. This is a huge boost. I'd be willing to bet we'll start seeing more stadium news soon now that the governor's office is gonna be secured.

[dukuboy1]

How about the D winning tonight?

Crystal Quade won, and she also supports the Chiefs/Royals incentive plans.

Basically now we are locked into support for the project either way. This is a huge boost. I'd be willing to bet we'll start seeing more stadium news soon now that the governor's office is gonna be secured.

encouraging developments for sure, but in the end it's politics. There are no such things as being "locked in"

[DColeKC]

How about the D winning tonight?

Crystal Quade won, and she also supports the Chiefs/Royals incentive plans.

Basically now we are locked into support for the project either way. This is a huge boost. I'd be willing to bet we'll start seeing more stadium news soon now that the governor's office is gonna be secured.

encouraging developments for sure, but in the end it's politics. There are no such things as being "locked in"

What?! Politicians are some of the most trustworthy and honest people out there.

[GRID]

Can somebody summarize what happened with the vote in kc/mo?

[TheUrbanRoo]

Can somebody summarize what happened with the vote in kc/mo?

Kehoe campaigned on keeping the teams in Missouri, the other two Republicans said the state shouldn't give any taxpayer dollars, and Kehoe won the vote so that is a very good sign for the teams.

[GRID]

Can somebody summarize what happened with the vote in kc/mo?

Kehoe campaigned on keeping the teams in Missouri, the other two Republicans said the state shouldn't give any taxpayer dollars, and Kehoe won the vote so that is a very good sign for the teams.

Nice.

[chingon]

How about the D winning tonight?

Crystal Quade won, and she also supports the Chiefs/Royals incentive plans.

Basically now we are locked into support for the project either way. This is a huge boost. I'd be willing to bet we'll start seeing more stadium news soon now that the governor's office is gonna be secured.

"either way"....bwahahahahahahhaha

[Chris Stritzel]

I'm cautious to say anything is locked in and guaranteed. Even if Mike Kehoe is supportive, you still have the legislature to work with. The Governor can't simply sign an executive order and issue state funding for anything. The legislative process exists to introduce the proposition, have the House and Senate vote on it before sending it to the Governor. If you get through all of that for stadium funding, then it's guaranteed the Governor would sign it.

This is easier said than done considering how you have three "factions" in State Legislature. The Trumpist Republicans (Bill Eigel) make up the rightwing of the party and are a minority. The Republicans (Mike Kehoe) make up the center-right of the party and are in the majority in State Legislature. Then you have the Democrats (Crystal Quade) which, like the Trumpists, are in minority status. There are some things each faction agrees on and will push forward. More often than not though, there will be fights.

Stadium funding will be one of those fights. I'm not saying it won't happen, but nothing is a given.

[TheUrbanRoo]

I'm cautious to say anything is locked in and guaranteed. Even if Mike Kehoe is supportive, you still have the legislature to work with. The Governor can't simply sign an executive order and issue state funding for anything. The legislative process exists to introduce the proposition, have the House and Senate vote on it before sending it to the Governor. If you get through all of that for stadium funding, then it's guaranteed the Governor would sign it.

This is easier said than done considering how you have three "factions" in State Legislature. The Trumpist Republicans (Bill Eigel) make up the rightwing of the party and are a minority. The Republicans (Mike Kehoe) make up the center-right of the party and are in the majority in State Legislature. Then you have the Democrats (Crystal Quade) which, like the Trumpists, are in minority status. There are some things each faction agrees on and will push forward. More often than not though, there will be fights.

Stadium funding will be one of those fights. I'm not saying it won't happen, but nothing is a given.

I know. But this is where mandates come in to play. If he runs on keeping the Chiefs and wins, it makes it much harder for the legislature to be able to opposite it. If wins and gets a mandate, its tough for legislators to vote against that.

Parsons, as much as he's pro-Chiefs, didn't run & win on that concept in 2020. Kehoe will have that mandate though.

[dukuboy1]

Crystal Quade won, and she also supports the Chiefs/Royals incentive plans.

Basically now we are locked into support for the project either way. This is a huge boost. I'd be willing to bet we'll start seeing more stadium news soon now that the governor's office is gonna be secured.

encouraging developments for sure, but in the end it's politics. There are no such things as being "locked in"

What?! Politicians are some of the most trustworthy and honest people out there.

lol

[langosta]

I'm cautious to say anything is locked in and guaranteed. Even if Mike Kehoe is supportive, you still have the legislature to work with. The Governor can't simply sign an executive order and issue state funding for anything. The legislative process exists to introduce the proposition, have the House and Senate vote on it before sending it to the Governor. If you get through all of that for stadium funding, then it's guaranteed the Governor would sign it.

This is easier said than done considering how you have three "factions" in State Legislature. The Trumpist Republicans (Bill Eigel) make up the rightwing of the party and are a minority. The Republicans (Mike Kehoe) make up the center-right of the party and are in the majority in State Legislature. Then you have the Democrats (Crystal Quade) which, like the Trumpists, are in minority status. There are some things each faction agrees on and will push forward. More often than not though, there will be fights.

Stadium funding will be one of those fights. I'm not saying it won't happen, but nothing is a given.

I know. But this is where mandates come in to play. If he runs on keeping the Chiefs and wins, it makes it much harder for the legislature to be able to opposite it. If wins and gets a mandate, its tough for legislators to vote against that.

Parsons, as much as he's pro-Chiefs, didn't run & win on that concept in 2020. Kehoe will have that mandate though.

Sources from him saying he ran on the keep chiefs platform?