Capping the Loop

[DMNBT_RCJH]

This is a very complicated project, give it time. We’ll see it start by the end of Q1 2025.

We can either have a defeatist attitude or an optimistic one and the growing amount of defeatism on here is laughable. Get a grip.

Complicated, indeed. And big. And far from a sure thing, which is one of the reasons the stadium EC proposal and renderings weren't realistic, especially since they added a major chunk to the cap that is far from a sure thing. And last I heard, a few months ago, the company standing to reap the most benefits from the cap had contributed zero dollars.

This could be numerous local companies.

[GRID]

agreed, it's not gonna happen. it was a nice thought but this is kansas city... we don't do nice things here.

I kind of knew this was a long shot. I think it still may happen, but it's going to take WAY Longer than people here thought.

I think the big problem is downtown lacks a major corporate community now.

This brings up another issue that I have been worried about since KC was selected to host the World Cup. I feel like KC has done basically nothing to take advantage of hosting the world cup. I mean as pessimistic as I can be about KC, I actually thought KC would do more than it has done. What a wasted opportunity to get the community to back some nice infrastructure upgrades, even if they couldn't get them complete by the WC, it would have given the city a reason to get people behind it.

KC is by far the fish out of the water with hosting the WC. Every thread I see that mentions all the cities hosting, people mention why in the world is KC on there. Where is Denver, Minneapolis, Chicago etc? This could have been an opportunity to really show that KC is a modern developing city, sadly, it may backfire and KC may embarrass itself especially if the city host any games that attracts fans from overseas.

I'm sure I will get hate for this post, but again, I try to keep it real.

KC dropped the ball here.

Just speaking to the WC component, KC is a leader amongst the cities hosting. KC is ahead of most in terms of all the pieces it takes to host an event of this magnitude. FIFA is aware of this.

International tourists by the tens of thousands will be descending on the city prior to and during the event. Speaking to the accounts of those international representatives (FIFA, Federations, journalists, etc.) who have been in-and-out of the city many, many times over the past number of years -- folks from around the world are blown away once they step foot in the city.

The lack of significant development surrounding the event is another story.

I have no doubt on that aspect of it. That is why KC was selected in the first place. They wanted it more than probably any other city that bid for it. I just thought the city would have done more to take advantage of hosting the event that's all.

[langosta]

This is a very complicated project, give it time. We’ll see it start by the end of Q1 2025.

We can either have a defeatist attitude or an optimistic one and the growing amount of defeatism on here is laughable. Get a grip.

Complicated, indeed. And big. And far from a sure thing, which is one of the reasons the stadium EC proposal and renderings weren't realistic, especially since they added a major chunk to the cap that is far from a sure thing. And last I heard, a few months ago, the company standing to reap the most benefits from the cap had contributed zero dollars.

This could be numerous local companies.

Not accurate as far as I am aware

[KCPowercat]

They give world cup sites based on how much city's want it? That's a weird qualification by the world cup but they are a weird organization.

What exactly did KC do to tell the committee we wanted it more than any other city? Seems we are doing way less, this project for example.

[Cratedigger]

This is a very complicated project, give it time. We’ll see it start by the end of Q1 2025.

We can either have a defeatist attitude or an optimistic one and the growing amount of defeatism on here is laughable. Get a grip.

Complicated, indeed. And big. And far from a sure thing, which is one of the reasons the stadium EC proposal and renderings weren't realistic, especially since they added a major chunk to the cap that is far from a sure thing. And last I heard, a few months ago, the company standing to reap the most benefits from the cap had contributed zero dollars.

This could be numerous local companies.

https://www.buckheadcid.com/wp-content/ ... Part-5.pdf

It's interesting seeing the funding stacks of similar projects. For Klyde Warren Park, 48% of the phase 1 funding came from private donations

[GRID]

They give world cup sites based on how much city's want it? That's a weird qualification by the world cup but they are a weird organization.

What exactly did KC do to tell the committee we wanted it more than any other city? Seems we are doing way less, this project for example.

I think you know, if you really need me to explain I will, but I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.

[KCPowercat]

I honestly don't. We don't seem to be doing anything to roll out the red carpet project wise. Are we saying we paid more incentive wise?

[Cratedigger]

They give world cup sites based on how much city's want it? That's a weird qualification by the world cup but they are a weird organization.

What exactly did KC do to tell the committee we wanted it more than any other city? Seems we are doing way less, this project for example.

https://themercury.com/townnews/sport/n ... a02dd.html

In the midst of that celebration, Sporting Kansas City president Jake Reid kept coming back to something this group had heard often. They had courted FIFA officials on visits, through phone calls and online presentations, and their most promising feedback had been consistent.

“They kept saying this,” Reid said.

It’s clear no one wants it more than you guys.

It became something of a running joke each time they spoke — FIFA officials and those involved with the Kansas City bid led by director Katherine Holland and sports commission president Kathy Nelson, in addition to Sporting KC and the Chiefs.

You guys are always the most excited.

We might never know if that factor pushed Kansas City over the top — if that’s what swayed FIFA officials to make it the smallest American city granted World Cup games, beating out a group of other bids that concluded with the nation’s capital left out — but we know that didn’t hurt.

[Imarealperson]

They give world cup sites based on how much city's want it? That's a weird qualification by the world cup but they are a weird organization.

What exactly did KC do to tell the committee we wanted it more than any other city? Seems we are doing way less, this project for example.

Are you telling me that the billboards and online petitions didn’t secure the WC for KC? I don’t believe it.

[KCPowercat]

Okay? That doesn't tell me they picked KC because the sporting president was active. If so someone phone Wichita they can host the next Olympics if they fly enough IOC banners.

It's just silly and dismissive to say KC got it just because we were active in presentations versus actual merits. We aren't some obsessive girlfriend desperate for attention which I think is what is being alluded to here in these posts.

[TheUrbanRoo]

This is a very complicated project, give it time. We’ll see it start by the end of Q1 2025.

We can either have a defeatist attitude or an optimistic one and the growing amount of defeatism on here is laughable. Get a grip.

I agree with this. I’m bullish on this project. The city, and even somewhat the state, are moving forward on this project and refuse to quit.

Stop judging this project as if this is just an ordinary run of the mill thing. There are VERY few cities that have ever turned a highway into a park. If they pull this off, this is beyond what 99% of cities have done. I think KCMO knows this and that’s why they keep plowing forward. So take a chill pill on trying to act like just about anyone else “except KC!!” are pulling off projects like these. This is massive.

I think they will get it started before the World Cup gets to KC, and that’s really what matters most. Show progress downtown on big time projects like this.

[GRID]

I honestly don't. We don't seem to be doing anything to roll out the red carpet project wise. Are we saying we paid more incentive wise?

KC did a better job of luring them, wanting them etc. Dates back to the Hunt family and bringing the MLS to the USA. And KC has rolled out the red carpet as far as showing FIFA that's it's the "soccer capital of America" which is actually kind of debatable considering the sizes of the crowds some other MLS markets draw.

When FIFA members come to KC, they see murals on buildings, wraps on the trams, flags on the streetlights all about how KC wants the WC.

Packing the P&L District during big games etc and showing that enthusiasm to FIFA.

The whole metro at least knew that KC was trying to get the WC. Any other city you would not have a clue. That community enthusiasm is not there. People just don't care that much. If the games came to their city they would sell out, but it would not matter that much to the average person and I'm sure that is reflected by those actually doing the luring as well.

There is no doubt that KC can be a huge sports town when it wants to be and will get behind luring an event like this to the city. But is the city actually ready to handle such an event? Maybe. Maybe not.

My point is the city did a great job of luring FIFA to KC. But did a terrible job of actually capitalizing on hosting such a huge national/international event especially when KC is VERY lucky to even be hosting at all. KC is kind of over its head a little with the WC as far as hospitality/travel/transit infrastructure etc. Would have been a great opportunity to close the gap a little with peer cities that do have such infrastructure and just clean up and update the city a little more too.

Not to say the event won't do well though and KC can show everybody union station etc. Just thought KC would step up to the plate a bit more than just what was already in the works.

Thank god KCI has been replaced. Although I'm not sure KC would have gotten the WC with the old KCI, but it's possible.

[Imarealperson]

lol

[Link2]

I honestly don't. We don't seem to be doing anything to roll out the red carpet project wise. Are we saying we paid more incentive wise?

KC did a better job of luring them, wanting them etc. Dates back to the Hunt family and bringing the MLS to the USA. And KC has rolled out the red carpet as far as showing FIFA that's it's the "soccer capital of America" which is actually kind of debatable considering the sizes of the crowds some other MLS markets draw.

When FIFA members come to KC, they see murals on buildings, wraps on the trams, flags on the streetlights all about how KC wants the WC.

Packing the P&L District during big games etc and showing that enthusiasm to FIFA.

The whole metro at least knew that KC was trying to get the WC. Any other city you would not have a clue. That community enthusiasm is not there. People just don't care that much. If the games came to their city they would sell out, but it would not matter that much to the average person and I'm sure that is reflected by those actually doing the luring as well.

There is no doubt that KC can be a huge sports town when it wants to be and will get behind luring an event like this to the city. But is the city actually ready to handle such an event? Maybe. Maybe not.

My point is the city did a great job of luring FIFA to KC. But did a terrible job of actually capitalizing on hosting such a huge national/international event especially when KC is VERY lucky to even be hosting at all. KC is kind of over its head a little with the WC as far as hospitality/travel/transit infrastructure etc. Would have been a great opportunity to close the gap a little with peer cities that do have such infrastructure and just clean up and update the city a little more too.

Not to say the event won't do well though and KC can show everybody union station etc. Just thought KC would step up to the plate a bit more than just what was already in the works.

Thank god KCI has been replaced. Although I'm not sure KC would have gotten the WC with the old KCI, but it's possible.

This mindset is perplexing to me. Such defeatism. KC has two years to go, there is so much happening that you are not aware of, and additional projects will be pursued as legacies leading out from the event.

[beautyfromashes]

I keep telling myself all the road replacing and construction is because of the WC. Of course, at this point, they’ve torn up and replaced the same roads three times so I don’t know what’s going on. Crickets from the state, but political parties can only spend in their designated geographic areas so that’s probably really hamstrung them. Should change that in the constitution. &

[KCPowercat]

I honestly don't. We don't seem to be doing anything to roll out the red carpet project wise. Are we saying we paid more incentive wise?

KC did a better job of luring them, wanting them etc. Dates back to the Hunt family and bringing the MLS to the USA. And KC has rolled out the red carpet as far as showing FIFA that's it's the "soccer capital of America" which is actually kind of debatable considering the sizes of the crowds some other MLS markets draw.

When FIFA members come to KC, they see murals on buildings, wraps on the trams, flags on the streetlights all about how KC wants the WC.

Packing the P&L District during big games etc and showing that enthusiasm to FIFA.

The whole metro at least knew that KC was trying to get the WC. Any other city you would not have a clue. That community enthusiasm is not there. People just don't care that much. If the games came to their city they would sell out, but it would not matter that much to the average person and I'm sure that is reflected by those actually doing the luring as well.

There is no doubt that KC can be a huge sports town when it wants to be and will get behind luring an event like this to the city. But is the city actually ready to handle such an event? Maybe. Maybe not.

My point is the city did a great job of luring FIFA to KC. But did a terrible job of actually capitalizing on hosting such a huge national/international event especially when KC is VERY lucky to even be hosting at all. KC is kind of over its head a little with the WC as far as hospitality/travel/transit infrastructure etc. Would have been a great opportunity to close the gap a little with peer cities that do have such infrastructure and just clean up and update the city a little more too.

Not to say the event won't do well though and KC can show everybody union station etc. Just thought KC would step up to the plate a bit more than just what was already in the works.

Thank god KCI has been replaced. Although I'm not sure KC would have gotten the WC with the old KCI, but it's possible.

Grid this is so full of half truths and assumptions that could never be evidenced I can't respond to it. Nor do I know what other cities did or didn't do for their bid. Thanks for the response.

We've went enough off track on this topic.. I take full responsibility for diverting us.

[chingon]

I also think KC is in way over its head and is going to look (accurately) bush-league. The difference between me and GRID is he will be ashamed, and I will positively relish it.

[phuqueue]

agreed, it's not gonna happen. it was a nice thought but this is kansas city... we don't do nice things here.

I kind of knew this was a long shot. I think it still may happen, but it's going to take WAY Longer than people here thought.

I think the big problem is downtown lacks a major corporate community now.

This brings up another issue that I have been worried about since KC was selected to host the World Cup. I feel like KC has done basically nothing to take advantage of hosting the world cup. I mean as pessimistic as I can be about KC, I actually thought KC would do more than it has done. What a wasted opportunity to get the community to back some nice infrastructure upgrades, even if they couldn't get them complete by the WC, it would have given the city a reason to get people behind it.

KC is by far the fish out of the water with hosting the WC. Every thread I see that mentions all the cities hosting, people mention why in the world is KC on there. Where is Denver, Minneapolis, Chicago etc? This could have been an opportunity to really show that KC is a modern developing city, sadly, it may backfire and KC may embarrass itself especially if the city host any games that attracts fans from overseas.

I'm sure I will get hate for this post, but again, I try to keep it real.

KC dropped the ball here.

Just speaking to the WC component, KC is a leader amongst the cities hosting. KC is ahead of most in terms of all the pieces it takes to host an event of this magnitude. FIFA is aware of this.

International tourists by the tens of thousands will be descending on the city prior to and during the event. Speaking to the accounts of those international representatives (FIFA, Federations, journalists, etc.) who have been in-and-out of the city many, many times over the past number of years -- folks from around the world are blown away once they step foot in the city.

The lack of significant development surrounding the event is another story.

I ask this out of genuine curiosity and not as a challenge to argue about it, but what "pieces" are you talking about when you say KC is ahead of most of the other hosts?

[Link2]

I kind of knew this was a long shot. I think it still may happen, but it's going to take WAY Longer than people here thought.

I think the big problem is downtown lacks a major corporate community now.

This brings up another issue that I have been worried about since KC was selected to host the World Cup. I feel like KC has done basically nothing to take advantage of hosting the world cup. I mean as pessimistic as I can be about KC, I actually thought KC would do more than it has done. What a wasted opportunity to get the community to back some nice infrastructure upgrades, even if they couldn't get them complete by the WC, it would have given the city a reason to get people behind it.

KC is by far the fish out of the water with hosting the WC. Every thread I see that mentions all the cities hosting, people mention why in the world is KC on there. Where is Denver, Minneapolis, Chicago etc? This could have been an opportunity to really show that KC is a modern developing city, sadly, it may backfire and KC may embarrass itself especially if the city host any games that attracts fans from overseas.

I'm sure I will get hate for this post, but again, I try to keep it real.

KC dropped the ball here.

Just speaking to the WC component, KC is a leader amongst the cities hosting. KC is ahead of most in terms of all the pieces it takes to host an event of this magnitude. FIFA is aware of this.

International tourists by the tens of thousands will be descending on the city prior to and during the event. Speaking to the accounts of those international representatives (FIFA, Federations, journalists, etc.) who have been in-and-out of the city many, many times over the past number of years -- folks from around the world are blown away once they step foot in the city.

The lack of significant development surrounding the event is another story.

I ask this out of genuine curiosity and not as a challenge to argue about it, but what "pieces" are you talking about when you say KC is ahead of most of the other hosts?

Fundraising, transportation, security, hotel contracting, impact analysis

[Link2]

I also think KC is in way over its head and is going to look (accurately) bush-league. The difference between me and GRID is he will be ashamed, and I will positively relish it.

Why even comment if you have that perception of KC