Plaza move-ins (ongoing)
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Those are all good ideas I agree with.
As someone else pointed out lack of development. Development along the new street car line & near Plaza area should be the top priority for the city. It is almost baffling why so little is being done.
As someone else pointed out lack of development. Development along the new street car line & near Plaza area should be the top priority for the city. It is almost baffling why so little is being done.
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People say “streetcar is the incentive” without really understanding why incentives are ever sought, so it isn’t surprising to see why this corridor isn’t seeing much in the way of Dev or even proposals right now, especially with the Macros.
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Mayor Lucas says he believes a deal to purchase the Plaza will still happen and recent events, including the Shake Shack shooting, haven't left the prospective buyers with cold feet. Acknowledges there may be some real estate closing issues, but nothing suggesting HPVP is no longer interested in this purchase.
Also says the city expects there will be a conversation regarding tax incentives. Not just classic TIF, but believes the strongest ask will be support for security, public works, transportation, and infrastructure.
https://flatlandkc.org/news-issues/nick ... d-cicadas/
Also says the city expects there will be a conversation regarding tax incentives. Not just classic TIF, but believes the strongest ask will be support for security, public works, transportation, and infrastructure.
https://flatlandkc.org/news-issues/nick ... d-cicadas/
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What more transportation? I suspect they don’t mean bus or rail
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Anyone else left impressed with the River Market development renderings by the new stadium and wondering what the hell we are doing with the plaza? IMO there easily could be a handful of impressive projects going in over there and yet here we are seemingly wondering if some outside group from Dallas will be the plaza with no real vision and a big giant hole surrounded by a parking garage.
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They need to get places new to area by Current Stadium.
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The vision there seems different from the Plaza vision I’ve heard from the HP group which is different than the SomeraRoads vision for the WB.Metro wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:01 pm Anyone else left impressed with the River Market development renderings by the new stadium and wondering what the hell we are doing with the plaza? IMO there easily could be a handful of impressive projects going in over there and yet here we are seemingly wondering if some outside group from Dallas will be the plaza with no real vision and a big giant hole surrounded by a parking garage.
Multiple projects from different developers with deep pockets doesn’t seem like a bad thing to me
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Express filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy and is closing several stores. I noticed the CCP location is NOT listed as a store to close. Zone Rosa's store is scheduled to close.
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People in the past have not been kind towards those who have mentioned the tenant rot at Zona Rosa, but I think it’s pretty clear that it has failed as a “mall” at this point and needs to be redeveloped into a true mixed use space. Express also quietly closed at Town Center Plaza.Midtownkid wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:05 am Express filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy and is closing several stores. I noticed the CCP location is NOT listed as a store to close. Zone Rosa's store is scheduled to close.
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The only hope for the Plaza is if they make it a real Plaza. Like that rendering last year envisioned. Other than that, nothing.Metro wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:01 pm Anyone else left impressed with the River Market development renderings by the new stadium and wondering what the hell we are doing with the plaza? IMO there easily could be a handful of impressive projects going in over there and yet here we are seemingly wondering if some outside group from Dallas will be the plaza with no real vision and a big giant hole surrounded by a parking garage.
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Sorry I know this is lazy but I'm sick as a dog. Could you link me to that rendering?TheUrbanRoo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:18 pmThe only hope for the Plaza is if they make it a real Plaza. Like that rendering last year envisioned. Other than that, nothing.Metro wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:01 pm Anyone else left impressed with the River Market development renderings by the new stadium and wondering what the hell we are doing with the plaza? IMO there easily could be a handful of impressive projects going in over there and yet here we are seemingly wondering if some outside group from Dallas will be the plaza with no real vision and a big giant hole surrounded by a parking garage.
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https://www.urbanlabkc.com/pedestrianized-plaza/Metro wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:42 pmSorry I know this is lazy but I'm sick as a dog. Could you link me to that rendering?TheUrbanRoo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:18 pmThe only hope for the Plaza is if they make it a real Plaza. Like that rendering last year envisioned. Other than that, nothing.Metro wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:01 pm Anyone else left impressed with the River Market development renderings by the new stadium and wondering what the hell we are doing with the plaza? IMO there easily could be a handful of impressive projects going in over there and yet here we are seemingly wondering if some outside group from Dallas will be the plaza with no real vision and a big giant hole surrounded by a parking garage.
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Heard a few weeks ago that May 3rd was the new closing date for HP Village acquisition. Any more insight?
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https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... egacy.htmlAn unrelated Texas investor, HP Village Partners LP, of Dallas, still plans to acquire the Country Club Plaza, though it's unclear when that transaction is scheduled to close, after at least one extension past the buyer's initial goal of year-end 2023, sources have said in recent months.
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Booooooooom
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Any word if the new buyer plans to make the middle a pedestrian way?
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Had a meeting with new members of new plaza team in the past month or so.
They indicated that the deal was still on and that hold up seemed to be with the sellers and the fact that they are large public companies that are likely taking a loss on the sale (unconfirmed).
Our meeting discussed improvements in and around the plaza area and the team seemed more than open to those ideas.
It’s not lost on them what the current condition of the plaza is.
Nichols will certainly be narrowed, not sure if it will be pedestrianized completely. One concept they mentioned was bricking it and taking out the curbs.
They indicated that the deal was still on and that hold up seemed to be with the sellers and the fact that they are large public companies that are likely taking a loss on the sale (unconfirmed).
Our meeting discussed improvements in and around the plaza area and the team seemed more than open to those ideas.
It’s not lost on them what the current condition of the plaza is.
Nichols will certainly be narrowed, not sure if it will be pedestrianized completely. One concept they mentioned was bricking it and taking out the curbs.