Downtown Baseball Stadium

[DColeKC]

Specific reason?

It just seems rushed with alot of questions. As someone else pointed out a month away from the vote and we haven't gotten a rendering from the Chiefs?

I don't understand why they couldn't have waited til the fall or even next spring to get this on the ballot and hammer out all the details.

Perfect opportunity to vote now and send them back to the drawing board. This should absolutely not be rushed since the tax and leases don't expire for SEVEN YEARS.

Dave - What do you need to see in order to get your support for this East Crossroads location?

[beautyfromashes]

It just seems rushed with alot of questions. As someone else pointed out a month away from the vote and we haven't gotten a rendering from the Chiefs?

I don't understand why they couldn't have waited til the fall or even next spring to get this on the ballot and hammer out all the details.

Perfect opportunity to vote now and send them back to the drawing board. This should absolutely not be rushed since the tax and leases don't expire for SEVEN YEARS.

Dave - What do you need to see in order to get your support for this East Crossroads location?

Choose your words carefully, Dave.

[glacier890]

I don't think parking will be a problem but it will be interesting to see where a majority will decide to park. Will a lot of people use the existing t mobile center garages since they are familiar with them? That's only a .5 mile walk. Will a majority just go to random $10 lots between Oak and 71 highway or pay a premium for some new garages right next to the stadium? What % of people will park at the River Market or Union Station and take the streetcar to the stadium. It will be fascinating to look at the numbers initially once the stadium opens and then again 5 years later to see if the trends change once people get more comfortable with downtown.

[Metro]

Has anyone seen any polling on the new location?

[Rusty Irish]

Fescoe saying this morning that both teams have "significantly better publicly funded offers" from other jurisdictions in the local area but wish to remain loyal to Jackson County in the first instance. However if the vote fails April 2 all bets are off and they'll be open to anything.

So Wyandotte/Legends and somewhere in JoCo?

[dnweava]

I've been told we will be seeing and hearing from the Chiefs this week after delaying due to the parade shooting. Royals will start up their activity soon as well and while it's very common for CBA's to not be finalized before a vote, they're trying to get it done.

Any idea what day? I'm getting antsy waiting.

I hope they also provide a timeline of what they can finish before the world cup.

[KCPowercat]

Fescoe saying this morning that both teams have "significantly better publicly funded offers" from other jurisdictions in the local area but wish to remain loyal to Jackson County in the first instance. However if the vote fails April 2 all bets are off and they'll be open to anything.

So Wyandotte/Legends and somewhere in JoCo?

that guy seems to be a rumor mongering shit stirrer in this whole conversation. I don't think I believe much of what he throws out there.

[DColeKC]

Fescoe saying this morning that both teams have "significantly better publicly funded offers" from other jurisdictions in the local area but wish to remain loyal to Jackson County in the first instance. However if the vote fails April 2 all bets are off and they'll be open to anything.

So Wyandotte/Legends and somewhere in JoCo?

that guy seems to be a rumor mongering shit stirrer in this whole conversation. I don't think I believe much of what he throws out there.

The Chiefs aren't going anywhere, but the Royals will head to Kansas or NKC if this fails. I'm not sure if they give it one more chance in the fall but they don't want to wait around.

[Highlander]

Fescoe saying this morning that both teams have "significantly better publicly funded offers" from other jurisdictions in the local area but wish to remain loyal to Jackson County in the first instance. However if the vote fails April 2 all bets are off and they'll be open to anything.

So Wyandotte/Legends and somewhere in JoCo?

that guy seems to be a rumor mongering shit stirrer in this whole conversation. I don't think I believe much of what he throws out there.

The Chiefs aren't going anywhere, but the Royals will head to Kansas or NKC if this fails. I'm not sure if they give it one more chance in the fall but they don't want to wait around.

Of course, Clay County would have to approve a sales tax if they want to build a stadium there and that would be more than an extension of an existing sales tax. I don't think it would be a guaranteed approval. Kansas would be much easier because the state is going to fully support a Royals move to the Legends or some other location in Kansas. It most likely would not come down to politics and the whims of voters. The state of Missouri should be thinking hard about what happens if the Jackson County vote fails.

[beautyfromashes]

IN MY OPINION: If the vote fails, they will immediately start tearing down the buildings where they want the stadium to be, essentially forcing the hand of voters in the second vote. They will make the choice either a. stadium or b. dead zone.

Sorry, forgot to put 'in my opinion'.

[DColeKC]

^ Bold Strategy but not unrealistic.

[bricknose]

There is a new anti-CR stadium website with very neat flyers to post around.

https://www.savethecrossroads.com


@DColeKC how can you stand steadfast against such graphic design? Have you no heart, sir?!

[DColeKC]

There is a new anti-CR stadium website with very neat flyers to post around.

https://www.savethecrossroads.com


@DColeKC how can you stand steadfast against such graphic design? Have you no heart, sir?!

If they turn this still graphic into a motion graphic, I may be swayed to vote no!

[Chris Stritzel]

There is a new anti-CR stadium website with very neat flyers to post around.

https://www.savethecrossroads.com


@DColeKC how can you stand steadfast against such graphic design? Have you no heart, sir?!

If they turn this still graphic into a motion graphic, I may be swayed to vote no!

What sort of dark money is funding this campaign?

[Cratedigger]

Saw this by Mean Mule this weekend.

Hits both anti billionaires and anti taxation notes

[DColeKC]

Saw this by Mean Mule this weekend.

Hits both anti billionaires and anti taxation notes

Don't make the mistake I did this weekend when I suggested to a member of this anti-stadium group that the Crossroads wouldn't be what it is today without wealthy developers and PNL. Yikes. I settled my tab quickly. I was not even in the crossroads!

[bricknose]

Don't make the mistake I did this weekend when I suggested to a member of this anti-stadium group that the Crossroads wouldn't be what it is today without wealthy developers and PNL. Yikes. I settled my tab quickly. I was not even in the crossroads!

But don't you know that billionaires bad? We could get have so many more cool major developments if we just got rid of all the billionaires.

[Highlander]

Saw this by Mean Mule this weekend.

Hits both anti billionaires and anti taxation notes

Don't make the mistake I did this weekend when I suggested to a member of this anti-stadium group that the Crossroads wouldn't be what it is today without wealthy developers and PNL. Yikes. I settled my tab quickly. I was not even in the crossroads!

When in doubt, resort to class warfare. It's a favorite theme in the US.

[KCPowercat]

There is a new anti-CR stadium website with very neat flyers to post around.

https://www.savethecrossroads.com


@DColeKC how can you stand steadfast against such graphic design? Have you no heart, sir?!

If they turn this still graphic into a motion graphic, I may be swayed to vote no!

What sort of dark money is funding this campaign?

i'd guess about none. Underestimate the crossroads at your own peril.

I just don't understand what this graphic even means.

[im2kull]

Saw this by Mean Mule this weekend.

Hits both anti billionaires and anti taxation notes

That building isn't even being demo'd LOL