Imarealperson wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:26 pm
The views from Wrigley and Fenway really aren’t any better if not worse than the EV site. People love Wrigley in part because they can walk across the street to the game after pregaming at Murphy’s. Not because downtown is 6 miles behind them.
Not talking about what's six miles away. Jesus, there is NOTHING in EV or within miles of it to the east or southeast. Even if they build a few things, the stadium there will be landlocked by government buildings, parking structures and highways and that will be the view till they build one or two buildings in the outfield which won't really add that much to the overall urban feel of the area.
So yeah, I would like to see a view, but everybody needs to stop attacking me and saying "views don't matter, there will be a neighborhood".
Unless that EV is TOTALLY REBUILT and includes covering the east loop and building up Paseo West, there is not going to be much around the stadium but a few bars at the bases of a couple of buildings.
That's why I'm so adamant on the Royals doing as much with EV as they seem to be doing for the NKC site. I would like to see the stadium turned more toward the city yes, but I also want to see a real neighborhood develop to the east and honestly, I don't see that happening. I just don't. Not in a timely manner. I see the same thing that happened with sprint center. Nothing has changed east of Grand around that arena except tear downs and and a few renovations that would have happened anyway.
That doesn't mean I don't support a new stadium there. I just think people here are not being realistic about how that EV area is going to develop and how much it will take to truly create blocks and blocks of real dense neighborhood development. It will take decades or it might never really even happen (see areas around stadiums in Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Detroit, even Baltimore etc.)
How do you make sure you get a San Diego or Denver instead? It's going to take a lot of money from the city and the state to help rebuild the east side of downtown. I just hope they are ready to step up and do that. They weren't with the Broadway Bridge.
Sorry, but my comments are not just about having a view of the city. I want what you guys want. I just don't want the view from the stadium to look like the view from City Hall. It's hideous looking out to the southeast and I don't think there is anything wrong with not wanting that view.