KCI Flight Schedule Adjustments

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hartliss wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:21 am Something to monitor, this is from the station manager at MCI for UAL: https://twitter.com/mitchelldonise/stat ... _GE3Wh2qhw
Not sure what else they could add here.

The rumored Maintenance base is my hope. Would be great to get jobs and see some widebodies.

I don’t really know what routes they could add. Bahamas? Europe via SAS, Lufthansa, etc? United I would say is the worst of the big US airlines so I really hope we get routes on Delta instead
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langosta wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:39 pm
hartliss wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:21 am Something to monitor, this is from the station manager at MCI for UAL: https://twitter.com/mitchelldonise/stat ... _GE3Wh2qhw
Not sure what else they could add here.

The rumored Maintenance base is my hope. Would be great to get jobs and see some widebodies.

I don’t really know what routes they could add. Bahamas? Europe via SAS, Lufthansa, etc? United I would say is the worst of the big US airlines so I really hope we get routes on Delta instead
LAX is really the only other hub but I feel like we already have plenty on LAX so I am not sure they have much slack to pick up there.

I still hope it’s a common access club. With Southwest being the biggest airline it makes the most sense
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langosta wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:39 pm
hartliss wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:21 am Something to monitor, this is from the station manager at MCI for UAL: https://twitter.com/mitchelldonise/stat ... _GE3Wh2qhw
Not sure what else they could add here.

The rumored Maintenance base is my hope. Would be great to get jobs and see some widebodies.

I don’t really know what routes they could add. Bahamas? Europe via SAS, Lufthansa, etc? United I would say is the worst of the big US airlines so I really hope we get routes on Delta instead
I was wondering the same thing, I am not sure what else they could add other than LAX. I suppose they could do a few Saturday only runs to leisure destinations but anything else would be a risk imo
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JetBlue has cut Boston in September and October.

JFK is scheduled on an A320 though
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dev49 wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:43 pm JetBlue has cut Boston in September and October.

JFK is scheduled on an A320 though
Damn. Loved that route.

To be fair though, I flew if 4 times (two round trips) and it was only reasonably full once.
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Daily Flight Comparison for Southwest now that their winter schedule is out.


WN MCI for Nov 2034 (non holiday weeks)
Fri 73
Sat 52
Sun 73

November 2019.

2019
Fri 69
Sat 40
Sun 72

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Cratedigger wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:25 pm
dev49 wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:43 pm JetBlue has cut Boston in September and October.

JFK is scheduled on an A320 though
Damn. Loved that route.

To be fair though, I flew if 4 times (two round trips) and it was only reasonably full once.
I will be curious if Southwest tries it again now that delta is the only one on it, if JetBlue cuts it long term
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Cratedigger wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:25 pm
dev49 wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:43 pm JetBlue has cut Boston in September and October.

JFK is scheduled on an A320 though
Damn. Loved that route.

To be fair though, I flew if 4 times (two round trips) and it was only reasonably full once.
I loved that route also, and it kept fares to boston super cheap. The timing was actually kind of nice for a quick getaway, you could leaving thurs or friday in the evening and get back sunday or mon morning. The flight still looks bookable in November and beyond
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July will be the biggest KCI schedule ever. Up 148 daily seats over July 2019 iirc
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Finally got around to looking up numbers in the Southwest schedule extension for November.

My numbers didn't match what was posted above so I went back thru again, I had missed one so now they match.

numbers are fri sat sun
Albuquerque, NM - ABQ 1 1 1
Atlanta, GA - ATL 3 2 3
Austin, TX - AUS 2 2 2
Baltimore/Washington, MD - BWI 2 2 2
Cancun, Mexico - CUN 1 1 1
Chicago (Midway), IL - MDW 7 4 7
Dallas (Love Field), TX - DAL 6 4 6
Denver, CO - DEN 8 4 8
Destin/Fort Walton Beach, FL - VPS
Fort Lauderdale, FL - FLL 1 1 1
Fort Myers, FL - RSW 0 1 0
Houston (Hobby), TX - HOU 3 2 3
Indianapolis, IN - IND 2 0 2
Las Vegas, NV - LAS 5 3 5
Long Beach, CA - LGB 1 0 1
Los Angeles, CA - LAX 2 2 2
Milwaukee, WI - MKE 2 0 2
Minneapolis/St. Paul (Terminal 2), MN - MSP 2 0 2
Myrtle Beach, SC - MYR
Nashville, TN - BNA 3 2 3
New Orleans, LA - MSY 1 1 1
New York (LaGuardia), NY - LGA 2 1 2
Oakland, CA - OAK 1 1 1
Orlando, FL - MCO 3 4 3
Panama City Beach, FL - ECP
Pensacola, FL - PNS
Phoenix, AZ - PHX 5 4 5
Portland, OR - PDX
Raleigh/Durham, NC - RDU
San Antonio, TX - SAT 1 1 1
San Diego, CA - SAN 2 2 2
Sarasota/Bradenton, FL - SRQ
Seattle/Tacoma, WA - SEA
St. Louis, MO - STL 3 2 3
Tampa, FL - TPA 1 2 1
Washington (Reagan National), DC - DCA 3 1 3
Los Cabos - SJD 0 1 0
Montego Bay -MBJ 0 1 0

Total 73 52 73
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AA adding a 3rd flight to PHX for winter. Looks to be an RJ to add the the 2 mainlines.
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Southwest opened up their Jan/Feb schedule yesterday. Nothing new for us.
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dev49 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:41 am Southwest opened up their Jan/Feb schedule yesterday. Nothing new for us.
Schedule gew vs. previous years

flights per day.... 2024 (2023) 2020
Friday 72 (53) 68
Saturday 46 (39) 41
Sunday 68 (54) 67
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dev49 wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:41 am Southwest opened up their Jan/Feb schedule yesterday. Nothing new for us.
Not shocking, winter destinations for KC are all pretty much fully served at this point.
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I think we can officially rule out a flight to AMS. Airlines lost their appeal and mandated cuts are coming.


The decision from the Amsterdam Court of Appeals on Friday allows the government of the Netherlands to move forward with plans to reduce aircraft movements at Schiphol airport to 460,000 annually from the current cap of 500,000, and eventually to 440,000 a year. Implementation could come as soon as the Summer 2024 season

https://airlineweekly.com/2023/07/amste ... eal/?amp=1
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dev49 wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:10 pm I think we can officially rule out a flight to AMS. Airlines lost their appeal and mandated cuts are coming.


The decision from the Amsterdam Court of Appeals on Friday allows the government of the Netherlands to move forward with plans to reduce aircraft movements at Schiphol airport to 460,000 annually from the current cap of 500,000, and eventually to 440,000 a year. Implementation could come as soon as the Summer 2024 season

https://airlineweekly.com/2023/07/amste ... eal/?amp=1
Like I said, UK or Germany
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dev49 wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:10 pm I think we can officially rule out a flight to AMS. Airlines lost their appeal and mandated cuts are coming.


The decision from the Amsterdam Court of Appeals on Friday allows the government of the Netherlands to move forward with plans to reduce aircraft movements at Schiphol airport to 460,000 annually from the current cap of 500,000, and eventually to 440,000 a year. Implementation could come as soon as the Summer 2024 season

https://airlineweekly.com/2023/07/amste ... eal/?amp=1
Damn, the Netherlands is really trying to shoot themselves in both their feet, huh?
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Raleigh getting Air France to Paris. Not one I saw coming. They already have Delta on the route, so if this is Air France taking over the route it in theory frees up a delta widebody plane.
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dev49 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:12 am Raleigh getting Air France to Paris. Not one I saw coming. They already have Delta on the route, so if this is Air France taking over the route it in theory frees up a delta widebody plane.
It’s announced Delta is dropping the route.

Delta operated 767, 4-7 times weekly. Air France will be 3x weekly to start
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langosta wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:40 am It’s announced Delta is dropping the route.

Delta operated 767, 4-7 times weekly. Air France will be 3x weekly to start
I wonder why the switch. I do know AF and Delta are partners. This means Cincinnati will be the only non-Delta hub with a nonstop CDG route, unless additional routes are announced. I wonder if AF is implementing a similar strategy to BA and adding direct routes to more non-hub/second tier US cities.
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