KC metro growth and migration stats

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GRID wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:18 am Interesting stats. Indy and Nashville are surprisingly low (especially Indy) considering the size of their city limits in relation to their metros.

Seattle just continues to boom despite all the continued talk of the city dying. And I guess everybody is either leaving CA or moving to the valley suburbs.

I'm a little surprised KCMO didn't do a little better, but at least it didn't lose people. Northland growth might be slowing since new construction single family housing has been sluggish in general across the country.

And St Louis City just keep losing a lot. I would imagine even St Louis County is losing people now. All the "growth" in metro StL seems to be migration to exurbs.
I never heard anyone saying Seattle was dying. San Fransisco is the one I see people saying the sky is falling about all the time. Haven't made it up to Seattle but know some people who have recently, and they tell me things seem to be doing fine up there.

KCMO will fair a bit better in the coming years. Key is for growth to be steady, not rapid. Increases of 9-12% every decade are where we need to be and Metro KC has achieved that in the three census cycles this century while the city has really saw growth heat up (1.5% growth in the 2000 census, 4.1% in 2010 census, and 10.5% in the 2020 census).

The City of St. Louis will likely bottom out around 240,000 residents in the 2030s. The Central Corridor and Southwest side are stable and you're starting to see some people move back into parts of North St. Louis, but not many. Losing 600,000+ residents has been hard on St. Louis but at least there seems to be light at the end of the tunnel. Most "growth" in the STL region has been from a few outsiders who have moved into St. Louis, St. Charles and Jefferson Counties. Beyond that, the population is more or less stagnant.
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I wonder what these census stats would look like if immigration weren't so limited. The GOP-led legislatures in several states are proposing changing child labor laws to deal with worker shortages. Recent news reports have found underage children working late into the night on cleaning crews at meat-packing plants.

Kids could fill labor shortages, even in bars, if these lawmakers succeed

https://apnews.com/article/child-labor- ... 88619c6205

The US birth rate is dropping.

America aged rapidly in the last decade as baby boomers grew older and births dropped

https://apnews.com/article/census-demog ... 70767c5f5e
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Lee's Summit, MO has had a growth rate of 5.57 percent over the past five years. It is the fastest growing city in Missouri followed by Columbia at 4.21 percent.

Over the past five years, KCMO and Independence have had higher population growth rates than Overland Park and Olathe.

Olathe had the highest growth rate in Kansas.

These Kansas City-area cities saw strong population growth during the past 5 years
Lee's Summit had one of the highest population growth rates in the country from 2017 to 2022, according to a report by SmartAsset.

The suburban community, which is primarily located in Jackson County, made the website's list at No. 81, with a 5.57% population increase to 104,336 residents.
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Among the largest U.S. cities, four other Kansas City-area municipalities appeared among the top 150 fastest-growing cities:

105. Independence (4.07%; population 121,211)
106. Kansas City (4.01%; pop. 509,247)
107. Olathe (4%; pop. 145,597)
127. Overland Park (3.06%; pop. 197,747)

Locally, Kansas City, Kansas (pop. 152,561), is the only city that saw a decrease (-0.15%) during the five-year period.
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... 2&empos=p2
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Positive for the region.

Thought it very interesting that KCK, Topeka and STL were the only 3 cities in KS and MO to lose population over those 5 years
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Other surprises for me nationally were:

Dearborn, MI: 14.7%
Sioux Falls, SD: 11.1%
Newark, NJ: 7.7%
Buffalo, NY: 7%.
Allentown, PA: 3.8%
Joliet, IL: 3.7%
Cincinnati, OH: 2.5%
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I’m starting to think there is significantly more merit to this idea of the Great Plains and Rust Belt resurgence come next decade. These places might start to see growth on par with their glory days
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Delaware for retirement has me laughing. We see what you are doing.
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https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... rowth.html

Kc continues to grow, slow, steady and suburban.

The Census Bureau reported that the Kansas City region had a population of 2,221,343 in 2023, up from 2,208,782 (+12,561) in 2022, 2,203,335 in 2021 and 2,195,218 in 2020.


Kansas City's 0.57% growth rate, which exceeded the national average of 0.49%, was higher than its two most recent cycles: 0.25% (2022 vs. 2021) and 0.37% (2021 vs. 2020).

Kansas City wasn't the fastest-growing metro in Kansas or Missouri, but it's 0.57% growth rate was higher than all but three metros: Columbia (0.86%), Springfield (0.85%) and Joplin (0.81%).
The following metros trailed Kansas City, including four that shrank:
Wichita (0.50%)
Lawrence (0.45%)
Jefferson City (0.26%)
Topeka (0.18%)
Cape Girardeau (-0.08%)
St. Louis (-0.12%)
Manhattan (-0.41%)
St. Joseph (-1.02%)
Johnson County, up 3,146 to 622,237
Clay County, up 2,842 to 259,772
Jackson County, up 2,342 to 718,560
Cass County, up 1,375 to 111,732
Platte County, up 1,370 to 111,940
Leavenworth County, up 596 to 83,518
Wyandotte County, down -345 to 165,281
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People are moving to springfield?
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Good news is that despite JoCo adding the most, the MO sided continues to add over twice as many people. 8,552 MO side vs 4,009 KS side.
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Nice to see Clay county on the MO side give JOCO some competition. So much room for growth up here in Clay & Platte county. Basically all residential growth, with mega employers /giant corporate campuses. If downtown could ever gain a major HQ or have some moderate sized companies locate downtown to add to what is there could really boost population higher. But just based on total space to grow the Northland finally on a steady upswing. Plus it’s KCMO biggest growth opportunity for new tax base
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dukuboy1 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:07 pm Nice to see Clay county on the MO side give JOCO some competition. So much room for growth up here in Clay & Platte county. Basically all residential growth, with mega employers /giant corporate campuses. If downtown could ever gain a major HQ or have some moderate sized companies locate downtown to add to what is there could really boost population higher. But just based on total space to grow the Northland finally on a steady upswing. Plus it’s KCMO biggest growth opportunity for new tax base
It's good for downtown too. If you have more continuity in the suburbs built in the metro, then the urban core becomes a centralized location for business, entertainment, etc. Our metro has always been lopsided because of the Kansas state line with the center of commerce skewed to that part of the metro. Balancing makes this center downtown.
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We need to add population in places where infrastructure is already in place, otherwise, we are dooming future residents to higher costs per resident than other denser cities. Continuing the sprawl on undeveloped land is not in the interest of KCMO.
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Efforts are already being made to build upon existing infrastructure but sprawling suburban development in the north will continue to work counter to all the progress we are currently making. *Density isn’t optional anymore*.

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Well KCMO just invested a lot into infrastructure within Clay County within the last 5 yrs, especially in a corridor long 169 & 152 HWY's. So they are ready to grow for sure. I mean from the Metro North Crossing, parking lot looking South you can see the city skyline. The county is well positioned to help downtown as much as themselves.
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Standouts... Top 3 metros still losing, Portland and Seattle no longer hot (Seattle raw growth same as KC), Orlando and Charlotte pass STL and San Antonio may within a 2-3 years, Nashville slowed down a tad but still hot, Denver rate same as KC.
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KC job growth rate is really slowing. Wonder what’s up with that.

I’m conceptually against having no-income tax at the state level but it would clearly help our population and job growth rates. I wonder if you could offer a rebate to in-state residents?
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^Vegas, DC and Denver used to be hot markets yet now have same growth rate as MSP and KC of 0.6%. Columbus and Indy doing a tad better, probably partly grabbing from declining rust belt and Chicago. Ohio State being one of largest universities helps Columbus. Indy has Purdue (50K students) not too far away.

I'm officially based out of FL now mostly for the zero state income tax but still own property across MO and snowbird it. Would easily base back out of MO if no state income tax. Though given it's tough to attract/expand corporate tax base, would likely mean higher property tax or something else to offset.
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Everybody is so enamored with no income tax, like the state doesn't get your share in other ways.
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Eon Blue wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:33 pm Everybody is so enamored with no income tax, like the state doesn't get your share in other ways.
Exactly my thoughts but it seems to be working. i guess it’s alot easier in a tourism or resource extraction heavy economy. Dont think WA or TN are either of those though historically.
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