It's not forced. You can continue in the travel lane if a bus isn't present.
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Stumbled upon the Curb Protected, separated ROW cycle lanes in DT Olathe the other day, to my knowledge the only lanes like this in JOCO, and possibly the metro to this quality. Impressive to see from a suburb, and hopefully gives a good blueprint to what the rest of the metro should start pursuing for infrastructure improvements.
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Very very cool!
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So after that meeting, is the city now contemplating losing the bike lanes on Truman? Would be a terrible loss if that were the case
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Sounds like they are going to try and tweak the implementation, along with more signage.
Removal would take a council vote with 7 members voting for removal.
Removal would take a council vote with 7 members voting for removal.
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Business owners mad they can't use city streets for their own car storage should be laughed out of city hall.
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I have not been down Truman to see how these lanes designed. Did they eliminate car parking on the street? Surely Truman is wide enough to lose a lane of auto traffic and have bike lanes protected by parking, as on Armour.
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It 100% is wide enough for this. The biggest issue is the lack of appropriate signage and the fact that the parking is not marked off, so it’s still being utilized as a travel lane until it isn’t. Poorly implemented in that aspect no question
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I'm very pro bike lane, but these owners have some ligit complaints. Despite the nut at Atomic.
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The delivery one being the most valid. Given deliveries are made along SC corridor form the suicide lane, so I don’t see how that can’t be facilitated in the same way?
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https://twitter.com/Robinson4kc/status/ ... Quf73lT5zg
Yeesh. Tweet from Councilwoman Robinson about the Truman Road bike meeting tomorrow at 4:30. How are safer streets and making your community better/safer gentrification??We need to course correct quickly and ensure bike lane designs protect all road users and not be the oxygen needed for gentrification. Join us tomorrow for solutions and continued feedback.
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Anything you oppose has now become synonymous with gentrification apparently.Cratedigger wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:04 am https://twitter.com/Robinson4kc/status/ ... Quf73lT5zg
Yeesh. Tweet from Councilwoman Robinson about the Truman Road bike meeting tomorrow at 4:30. How are safer streets and making your community better/safer gentrification??We need to course correct quickly and ensure bike lane designs protect all road users and not be the oxygen needed for gentrification. Join us tomorrow for solutions and continued feedback.
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I can't discern if her concerns are more of a reaction to the city manager and staff's ineffective engagement approach (we had one meeting!) or a real concern about displacement. However, she has made repeated backhanded comments about bike lanes well before this (things like "I love bike lanes. I like to walk in them because the sidewalks are broken.")Cratedigger wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:04 am https://twitter.com/Robinson4kc/status/ ... Quf73lT5zg
Yeesh. Tweet from Councilwoman Robinson about the Truman Road bike meeting tomorrow at 4:30. How are safer streets and making your community better/safer gentrification??We need to course correct quickly and ensure bike lane designs protect all road users and not be the oxygen needed for gentrification. Join us tomorrow for solutions and continued feedback.
You could make an argument that the Truman Road CID is also gentrification. That actually applies a NEW TAX!
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We need to course correct quickly and ensure bike lane designs protect all road users and not be the oxygen needed for gentrification socialism. Join us tomorrow for solutions and continued feedback.
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Any improvements to long-neglected neighborhoods are considered gentrification now. This after those neighborhoods complained for years about being neglected, vacant houses, overgrown lots, and "chronic disinvestment." Then, when you address those concerns by making investments, and fixing up vacant and deteriorating structures, it's all called gentrification.
Either neighborhoods are allowed to rot until they are abandoned, or not.
Go look at Gary, Indiana (which has lost 61 percent of its population), or East St. Louis, Illinois (more than 75 percent population decline), on Google Streetview for how that plays out. Not saying that will happen to all of KCMO, but for certain neighborhoods here it is the eventual conclusion unless investment happens.
Either neighborhoods are allowed to rot until they are abandoned, or not.
Go look at Gary, Indiana (which has lost 61 percent of its population), or East St. Louis, Illinois (more than 75 percent population decline), on Google Streetview for how that plays out. Not saying that will happen to all of KCMO, but for certain neighborhoods here it is the eventual conclusion unless investment happens.
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Exactly right, FankKC.
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I'm confused by the demands for street parking. How can someone open up a body shop (Atomic) and think it's ok to have NO off street parking for customer cars? Same for the cafe down the street. They have a decent sized parking lot and a HUGE gravel lot next door (which is apparently not allowed to be used by them). If all the notice and engagement procedures were followed, I really don't have much sympathy for them to be honest. Their time to speak up has came and went 5 years ago.DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:12 amI can't discern if her concerns are more of a reaction to the city manager and staff's ineffective engagement approach (we had one meeting!) or a real concern about displacement. However, she has made repeated backhanded comments about bike lanes well before this (things like "I love bike lanes. I like to walk in them because the sidewalks are broken.")Cratedigger wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:04 am https://twitter.com/Robinson4kc/status/ ... Quf73lT5zg
Yeesh. Tweet from Councilwoman Robinson about the Truman Road bike meeting tomorrow at 4:30. How are safer streets and making your community better/safer gentrification??We need to course correct quickly and ensure bike lane designs protect all road users and not be the oxygen needed for gentrification. Join us tomorrow for solutions and continued feedback.
You could make an argument that the Truman Road CID is also gentrification. That actually applies a NEW TAX!
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It's pretty simple: There's no capacity to police the right-of-way so pretty much anyone is allowed to crap all over that public space for their own benefit. It's not unique to businesses as plenty of homeowners do it, too. I've watched a certain group of homes nearby put cones in front of their homes to preserve on-street parking that's public (but unregulated).alejandro46 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:27 am I'm confused by the demands for street parking. How can someone open up a body shop (Atomic) and think it's ok to have NO off street parking for customer cars? Same for the cafe down the street. They have a decent sized parking lot and a HUGE gravel lot next door (which is apparently not allowed to be used by them). If all the notice and engagement procedures were followed, I really don't have much sympathy for them to be honest. Their time to speak up has came and went 5 years ago.
I should note that staff has a full record of everyone they spoke to and anyone in this corridor claiming ignorance is lying.
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Are they planning to publish these records to the public? Or are they open source? Even if it was just a postal notification, it’s not the city’s responsibility to ensure grown ass adults check their mail…DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:50 pmIt's pretty simple: There's no capacity to police the right-of-way so pretty much anyone is allowed to crap all over that public space for their own benefit. It's not unique to businesses as plenty of homeowners do it, too. I've watched a certain group of homes nearby put cones in front of their homes to preserve on-street parking that's public (but unregulated).alejandro46 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:27 am I'm confused by the demands for street parking. How can someone open up a body shop (Atomic) and think it's ok to have NO off street parking for customer cars? Same for the cafe down the street. They have a decent sized parking lot and a HUGE gravel lot next door (which is apparently not allowed to be used by them). If all the notice and engagement procedures were followed, I really don't have much sympathy for them to be honest. Their time to speak up has came and went 5 years ago.
I should note that staff has a full record of everyone they spoke to and anyone in this corridor claiming ignorance is lying.
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For what it's worth, I reached out to Melissa Robinson. She said she fears a vote to remove bike lanes and wants to prevent that by getting this right.