12th and Broadway site: RFP for mixed use

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Interesting article. Thank you!
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Beyond KC Southern working on a proposal here, I know of two other firms presently working on proposals for this site with another one or two likely to join in soon. There could be more, but the process seems to be getting fairly stacked so far. I have faith each group will bring something special to this site.
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Are they designing a large project to use both parcels or are they designing a smaller project for one of the parcels?
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It’s up to the developer
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If the infill project is indeed 15 stories tall, the views from the upper five floors (presumably residential) should be pretty sweet. Well overhead of the convention center and down the slope toward Crossroads.
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herrfrank wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:37 pm If the infill project is indeed 15 stories tall, the views from the upper five floors (presumably residential) should be pretty sweet. Well overhead of the convention center and down the slope toward Crossroads.
Unfortunately a building here can’t be that tall because of the 130ft height limit. I did send the drone up to see what it would be like from the 12th floor at 125ft. Pretty sweet views but the roof of the convention center sucks to look at and a lot of the shorter buildings to the east will be blocked by the Barney Allis Plaza building. I actually like the view north more than east or south.
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Chris Stritzel wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:42 pm
herrfrank wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:37 pm If the infill project is indeed 15 stories tall, the views from the upper five floors (presumably residential) should be pretty sweet. Well overhead of the convention center and down the slope toward Crossroads.
Unfortunately a building here can’t be that tall because of the 130ft height limit. I did send the drone up to see what it would be like from the 12th floor at 125ft. Pretty sweet views but the roof of the convention center sucks to look at and a lot of the shorter buildings to the east will be blocked by the Barney Allis Plaza building. I actually like the view north more than east or south.
Guessing they could request a variance – not in FAA zone or restricted view.
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I still don't understand why in the world they would have a 130' height limit at that location. You would want to be above the 10th floor just to get away from the terrible views of bartle hall there.
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Chris Stritzel wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:42 pm Unfortunately a building here can’t be that tall because of the 130ft height limit. I did send the drone up to see what it would be like from the 12th floor at 125ft. Pretty sweet views but the roof of the convention center sucks to look at and a lot of the shorter buildings to the east will be blocked by the Barney Allis Plaza building. I actually like the view north more than east or south.
It’d look nice if the roof was turned into a green park and we abandon trying to turn BAP into being all things to all people. Just build a garage and a residential building on top. Done.
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Javits in new york has a green roof that's just a green roof, not accessible as far as I know. Probably for rainwater retention or somesuch

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Vancouver convention center has a green roof. Lots of large buildings in Europe and Asia do as well. This bolt-on residential/park/garage concept just feels very contrived and doesn't fit with the environment. I really don't think it will be used much as a park and, if the residential project comes to fruition, I don't think it will be a great environment. Half of the west side will stare at a blank convention wall, the other at an ugly convention roof.
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Fully support this idea. If we're gonna do it, they should go ahead and renovate the whole convention center too. Would love to see some proposals. Let's get BAP done first though.
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UMKC Roo wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:49 am Fully support this idea. If we're gonna do it, they should go ahead and renovate the whole convention center too. Would love to see some proposals. Let's get BAP done first though.
We're voting in November to issue bonds for upgrades to the convention center (45 Million).
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gfenn11 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:17 am
UMKC Roo wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:49 am Fully support this idea. If we're gonna do it, they should go ahead and renovate the whole convention center too. Would love to see some proposals. Let's get BAP done first though.
We're voting in November to issue bonds for upgrades to the convention center (45 Million).
Think that’s really for deffered maintenance and not a true renovation
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normalthings wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:01 pm
gfenn11 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:17 am
UMKC Roo wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:49 am Fully support this idea. If we're gonna do it, they should go ahead and renovate the whole convention center too. Would love to see some proposals. Let's get BAP done first though.
We're voting in November to issue bonds for upgrades to the convention center (45 Million).
Think that’s really for deffered maintenance and not a true renovation
Correct, the $45 million is solely to cover deferred maintenance at the building. With that said, some of this deferred maintenance has been delayed for decades -- so it's absolutely vital to get this work done. And it won't all be back-of-house improvements either; much of it will be evident to visitors at the Center as they're navigating through the campus.
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