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DColeKC wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:25 am
UMKC Roo wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:35 pm
mgsports wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:57 pm Suns/Mercury for sale.
Was hoping someone locally would make a run at the Mercury since NWSL has done so well & is growing here.
A WNBA team feels like the last thing we need. Where would they play? It wouldn’t be at t-mobile.

Can’t imagine the Suns are leaving the Phoenix market.
Because having WNBA is a good precursor to getting an NBA team one day. Vegas having the Aces is a reason they’re getting expansion. League likes having both in town.

If league or investors see that KC has people show up for WNBA (which I think we would) then they’ll be much more open to relocating a team here one day.
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UMKC Roo wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:11 pm
DColeKC wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:25 am
UMKC Roo wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:35 pm

Was hoping someone locally would make a run at the Mercury since NWSL has done so well & is growing here.
A WNBA team feels like the last thing we need. Where would they play? It wouldn’t be at t-mobile.

Can’t imagine the Suns are leaving the Phoenix market.
Because having WNBA is a good precursor to getting an NBA team one day. Vegas having the Aces is a reason they’re getting expansion. League likes having both in town.

If league or investors see that KC has people show up for WNBA (which I think we would) then they’ll be much more open to relocating a team here one day.
I wouldn't touch that concept with a thousand foot pole. The sparks struggle to get 5,000 people to a game in a city of 12 million people and arguably the most liberal, pro-female market in the world. Getting a WNBA team to KC is just a great way to push the idea of getting a NBA team back a decade.

Not to mention, we don't need any baby steps before getting a NBA or NHL team. This city has proven it's a great sports town. We have the facility, the fans and the demand.
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Women's soccer it's just different, similar to tennis or gymnastics or ice skating. I don't know what it is but culture is weird.

I've been at power and light for women's soccer games and it's often more fun than the men's watch parties and just as busy.

I don't see any of that culture in WNBA. I'm the wrong one to ask because I don't care much for NBA or WNBA, but I don't see their fan base making the cultural push to make them things people want to be involved in.

If you walk by power and light this weekend you'll see a bunch of people at 7am watching an English women's soccer game at Johnny's.

It's a fairly liberal, young, international group that cares about women's sports, enjoys watching it, and wants it to be successful.

I haven't seen anything like that from the NBA.
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Tulsa has WNBA and OKC Thunder.
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UMKC Roo wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:59 am
dukuboy1 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:44 am KCBJ ran article today on new billionaire moving to town. Woman to be in charge of Leads Bank, tech & fintech guru. Maybe she has friends that want to help her get an NBA & WBNA to town 🤷🏼‍♂️
The same thought crossed my mind, although I'm not putting any stock in it. Mahomes & lady could be a force one day for it.

I do think it's been undersold that a billionaire chose to move here. I don't think that happens if this is 2003.
Just having some fun honestly, & never expect them to leave Phoenix. However like you said the fact that a woman billionaire from the tech industry is moving to KC is a big deal. If you read her bio & follow her story she is heavily connected, brilliant, and motivated worker. Having her here & eventually becoming a champion for the metro will bring some clout. Places like Austin & Nashville grew out of grassroots word of mouth. Now both bring state capitals helped spur dollars to backup that grassroots momentum but, so yeah I get that. But point is the more of these people who want come here, put down roots, & invest in the metro is great & will go a long way to attracting business development & bringing in other successful, progressive leaders that will help move the needle more & quicker for KC. Curious to see what she brings to Leads Bank
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dukuboy1 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:06 pm
UMKC Roo wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:59 am
dukuboy1 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:44 am KCBJ ran article today on new billionaire moving to town. Woman to be in charge of Leads Bank, tech & fintech guru. Maybe she has friends that want to help her get an NBA & WBNA to town 🤷🏼‍♂️
The same thought crossed my mind, although I'm not putting any stock in it. Mahomes & lady could be a force one day for it.

I do think it's been undersold that a billionaire chose to move here. I don't think that happens if this is 2003.
Just having some fun honestly, & never expect them to leave Phoenix. However like you said the fact that a woman billionaire from the tech industry is moving to KC is a big deal. If you read her bio & follow her story she is heavily connected, brilliant, and motivated worker. Having her here & eventually becoming a champion for the metro will bring some clout. Places like Austin & Nashville grew out of grassroots word of mouth. Now both bring state capitals helped spur dollars to backup that grassroots momentum but, so yeah I get that. But point is the more of these people who want come here, put down roots, & invest in the metro is great & will go a long way to attracting business development & bringing in other successful, progressive leaders that will help move the needle more & quicker for KC. Curious to see what she brings to Leads Bank
Yeah. Like I said, I doubt she comes here in 2003 or even 2010. It's a great sign. And concur, don't think Suns are leaving Phoenix. But one day some team will come available and we'll be poised to strike if we have residents like this + a face like Mahomes to promote it.
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Suns are the oldest franchise in PHX, they are never leaving that city, they have a ton of history
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Clark Hunt is rich enough to own an NBA team.
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normalthings wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:22 pm Clark Hunt is rich enough to own an NBA team.
Need a face though. Have to get a star to lead the group.
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UMKC Roo wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:46 pm
normalthings wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:22 pm Clark Hunt is rich enough to own an NBA team.
Need a face though. Have to get a star to lead the group.
There is no need to? Hunt Family is in the top 20 wealthiest families. He has power and wealth enough to syndicate the team ownership.
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normalthings wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:49 pm
UMKC Roo wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:46 pm
normalthings wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:22 pm Clark Hunt is rich enough to own an NBA team.
Need a face though. Have to get a star to lead the group.
There is no need to? Hunt Family is in the top 20 wealthiest families. He has power and wealth enough to syndicate the team ownership.
That kind of stuff worked 30+ years ago when all u needed was money, NBA wants owners that people know like a bezos or a musk, a Jordan, nobody wants crusty old white men anymore
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lol Bezos is a "crusty old white person" and so is Musk...
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daGOAT wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:05 am lol Bezos is a "crusty old white person" and so is Musk...
And neither own an NBA team lol
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mgsports wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:55 pm Tulsa has WNBA and OKC Thunder.
Tulsa hasn't had a WNBA team since 2015
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UMKC Roo wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:11 pm
DColeKC wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:25 am
UMKC Roo wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:35 pm

Was hoping someone locally would make a run at the Mercury since NWSL has done so well & is growing here.
A WNBA team feels like the last thing we need. Where would they play? It wouldn’t be at t-mobile.

Can’t imagine the Suns are leaving the Phoenix market.
Because having WNBA is a good precursor to getting an NBA team one day. Vegas having the Aces is a reason they’re getting expansion. League likes having both in town.

If league or investors see that KC has people show up for WNBA (which I think we would) then they’ll be much more open to relocating a team here one day.
No way WNBA is a complete joke
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Another dude that doesn’t like women’s sports. Anything else you want to educate us on?
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WoodDraw wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:26 pm Another dude that doesn’t like women’s sports. Anything else you want to educate us on?
No one likes the WNBA, it’s not exclusive to men. My wife is a former starting member of a D1 athletic program and can’t stand to watch it.

The men who say they like the wnba are lying and just trying to be woke. It’s pathetic.
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someone posted earlier about women's soccer & tennis being popular across the board and WBNA lags behind. I know it does well in some places and has a strong fans base. My guess is that in women's soccer and tennis the game at the surface level looks very similar to the men's game. The same exciting plays that are made during a match are essentially the same on the surface. Now go behind the scenes some shots may be hit harder, go faster, etc. But a wicked header into the back of the net or a laser forehand down the line look the same in the men's and women's game. Again I know there are differences but to the average fan they are the same on the surface so there is less perceived space between the men's & women's game.

With the NBA & WNBA it's different. In a lot of ways the women are better technical players than the men, they play a more "pure" brand of ball. Quick passes, open looks. tight defense, constant hustle, etc. Not to say the men's game is not like this but the WBNA is more team oriented in success than focusing on super stars, isolation, clear outs and let LeBron do it all. Plus the most exciting plays in basketball are dunks. I mean the highlights we see dunks in transition, dunks off a sweet pass, alley-oops, it is an exciting play and one that rarely happens in the WBNA, if at all. So I think the average fan perceives the WBNA as a little less entertaining because it cannot or rarely can deliver the same level of exciting plays in the form of dunk that the NBA can. Yes I realize the NBA has become a perimeter game where they jack 3's all night and barely go to work in the paint but the dunk and inside paly above the rim is still there and lacking in the WBNA. That's my 2 cents but I think the WBNA is fine with outstanding players but at the same time it is a niche sport in terms of fandom.
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WoodDraw wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:26 pm Another dude that doesn’t like women’s sports. Anything else you want to educate us on?
Exactly. I'm a big men's basketball fan (both professional and college) -- and I truly enjoy the women's game as well. Both in-person and on TV can be exciting if you're a fan of the sport. Watching the best athletes in the world compete at the highest level is what I am looking for, and the WNBA certainly delivers that.
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Link2 wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:53 am
WoodDraw wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:26 pm Another dude that doesn’t like women’s sports. Anything else you want to educate us on?
Exactly. I'm a big men's basketball fan (both professional and college) -- and I truly enjoy the women's game as well. Both in-person and on TV can be exciting if you're a fan of the sport. Watching the best athletes in the world compete at the highest level is what I am looking for, and the WNBA certainly delivers that.
They are the best female basketball players in the entire world but it's just a difficult sport to watch on TV or in person. dukuboy kind of nailed it, we are constantly seeing highlights from the NBA and have witnessed players like MJ, Kobe and Lebron. The difference in skill and ability between LeBron and the best WNBA player is so gigantic they're not even in the same galaxy. There's a reason even women don't spend their money to support the WNBA.

Some things are a bit forced and if this was a professional women's basketball league without the help of the NBA, it wouldn't have made it past year 3.It's just not a good product.
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