Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

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Only issue is to board nb from river market have to get to 5th and walnut. Not s huge loss.
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KCPowercat wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:41 pm Only issue is to board nb from river market have to get to 5th and walnut. Not s huge loss.
I see, but actually, that's probably going to be needed. Especially during events like soccer games and riverfront festivals. A larger platform on Grand there would make the logistics of moving a lot of people to and from the Riverfront much easier. That other river market stop is already really busy.

Probably something they can always fix later though.
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Meh that stop at 5th is big. Coming back south out of the park there will be two viable stops to unload everyone.
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GRID wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:36 pm Going down Swift keeps it a local "tram" and it's not likely to ever be extended any further north.

Going down Burlington and create an opportunity to transition into a higher level of actual mass transit meaning people will actually use it for commuting and to get to places like KCI (as long as it maintains a dedicated RoW to the north). Burlington also seems like it's more of a wide open canvas to build up the corridor with high density residential.

Either way works, but whichever is chosen will direct the future of "rail" in KC.
As I mentioned dual options would be good. SC system for Swift. Some kind of dedicated light rail/commuter based line down Burlington. Find a good spot for a large park & ride facility & build dedicated commuter line. The SC itself is not really mass transit. But regardless will be excited for whatever they do
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North Kansas City residents share preferred streetcar routes from among eight options
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Residents used sticky notes to share feedback on pairs of recommended route options for each of three potential northern legs, which could see the streetcar stretch across the Heart of America Bridge and reach as far as 32nd Avenue. The options presented amount to eight possible combinations, with estimated costs ranging from $177.4 million to $204.2 million, if all three legs were fully built out.

From south to north, the North Kansas City route options recommended were:

River Market Option #1 ($28.6 million) — A "couplet" route design that extends the current streetcar east along both Third and Fifth streets to Missouri Route 9, with two potential stops, including one near Columbus Park.
River Market Option #2 ($25.7 million) — A two-way extension east along Third Street to Missouri Route 9, with one potential stop.
River Crossing Option #1 ($32.9 million) — A single dedicated streetcar lane across the east side of the Heart of America Bridge, next to a multiuse trail, to 10th Avenue in North Kansas City.
River Crossing Option #2 ($22 million) — A single dedicated streetcar lane across the west side of the Heart of America Bridge, across from an east-side multiuse trail, to 10th Avenue in North Kansas City.
North Kansas City Option #1 ($129.7 million) — Two dedicated streetcar lanes that run along the middle of Burlington Avenue between 10th and 29th avenues, with five potential stops.
North Kansas City Option #2 ($142.7 million) — Two streetcar lanes shared with motor traffic that stretch two blocks east from 10th Avenue to run along the middle of Swift Avenue to 32nd Avenue, with seven potential stops.
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North Kansas City officials could start to review the feedback later this summer and determine a final route preference in the fall. The NorthRail study is estimated to be complete by the end of 2022.
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https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... 2022-07-01
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Reading old KC transit studies.

1998 study projected 3,000 daily riders for a line from I-29 & North Oak to RM in forecast year 2020.
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