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Roughly 1.5 years from open. I believe they're on track.
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DColeKC wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:28 pm Roughly 1.5 years from open. I believe they're on track.
Original finish date I heard from August 2023. So yeah, more or less that's about on track.
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The skyway btwn 2 & 3 was cut.
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bspecht wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:09 pm The skyway btwn 2 & 3 was cut.
Yes
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bspecht wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:09 pm The skyway btwn 2 & 3 was cut.
Probably a good thing
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bspecht wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:09 pm The skyway btwn 2 & 3 was cut.
Honestly would’ve been an eyesore, would’ve been great for residents though.
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Good news
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The arts commission completely reworded their website “about” section to include several mentions of skybridges or anything that is “over” city property as part of their jurisdiction.

Appointed people with zero knowledge about development making important decisions. They didn’t kill this project but between the resistance and money, easier to cut.
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bspecht wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:09 pm The skyway btwn 2 & 3 was cut.
Thank god. That would have been ugly AF.
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I tend to side with those who would have benefited from its use opposed to those forced to look at it a few times a year. Big lose for the residents.

How do you weigh community opinion about something they never intend to use Vs the benefit to the hundreds or thousands of residents who would have used it over the years?

And why does the local arts commission have a say in a functional mode of transport (skybridge) when there was zero art involved in its design? The city should have a say by all means to properly represent the tax payer and cities interest but the arts commission?
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Who do you propose? They represent taxpayers and city interests?

People would use a drive thru downtown but we restrict them due to other factors but the usefulness of customers using a drive thru should be prioritized?
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Won’t it by default create a little more street density down there if residents have to walk the sidewalk to get to the other building now?
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I do think it’s weird the arts commission is involved, but I’m glad this is gone
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KCPowercat wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:35 pm Who do you propose? They represent taxpayers and city interests?

People would use a drive thru downtown but we restrict them due to other factors but the usefulness of customers using a drive thru should be prioritized?
A drive thru stands to have a major impact on all downtown drivers. Makes sense to not allow as the benefit isn't worth the potential traffic jams, pollution etc.

Not sure how a bridge, 25' above people's heads would have a negative impact on anyone. Poll 100 people and ask them what they think of skybridges to connect buildings. Guessing most would say they really don't care either way, a few would be very opposed and a few very supportive.

We're building a neighborhood, what's better for a neighborhood than creating ways for residents to most easily move around it? Even building to building.
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I think the city has several committees that handle development, zoning, permitting and the likes that can handle this from a professional perspective. Not a mayor appointed commission made up of people, mostly, who know nothing about development, urbanism or..... ART!
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All those great new York neighborhoods are because of skywalks!
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And I agree the city should have better design standards for all development versus leaving it up to the arts commission. Those standards would disallow skywalks most certainly
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KCPowercat wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:23 pm All those great new York neighborhoods are because of skywalks!
I’m not saying skybridges make or break neighborhoods. Plenty of arguments on either side. I’d be more supportive of a underground tunnel because it’s got a cool factor but it’s also not as practical.

It’s just a interesting debate weighing tax payers opinions on something that has very little impact on their lives vs the people spending 30k a year on rent and what they want.
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What’s wrong with just having people walk along the sidewalk?
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DColeKC wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:28 pm
KCPowercat wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:23 pm All those great new York neighborhoods are because of skywalks!
I’m not saying skybridges make or break neighborhoods. Plenty of arguments on either side. I’d be more supportive of a underground tunnel because it’s got a cool factor but it’s also not as practical.

It’s just a interesting debate weighing tax payers opinions on something that has very little impact on their lives vs the people spending 30k a year on rent and what they want.
It's not a very interesting debate. Spending any amount of money on rent doesn't give you have special treatment. I'd contend the design and aesthetic of a city have huge impacts on citizens.
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