Rankings, lists, and such

[Riverite]

Kansas City stayed higher than Atlanta and Mesa, so we should be the 36th biggest city

[normalthings]

Downtown count probably ~50% higher than reported. Less a than 2,000 in Crossroads

You're saying they reported us fewer than what it actually is?

Just feels like at least 50-100% more people IRL

[earthling]

Here's the KCMO 2020 census, plug in other places..
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/kansa ... tymissouri

[AlkaliAxel]

Something I've always wished is that we could add Lawrence, KS (Douglas County) into our metro count. It's growing at a big 12% clip, has alot of people, and really is the same distance as a few other counties that count in our metro.

[Riverite]

Something I've always wished is that we could add Lawrence, KS (Douglas County) into our metro count. It's growing at a big 12% clip, has alot of people, and really is the same distance as a few other counties that count in our metro.

It’s in our CSA which is about 2.5 million

[Riverite]

Lee’s Summit is now just over 100,000. Olathe is about 141,000 and Overland Park is just shy of 200,000

[flyingember]

Downtown count probably ~50% higher than reported. Less a than 2,000 in Crossroads

You're saying they reported us fewer than what it actually is?

Just feels like at least 50-100% more people IRL

the city does it's own tracking of downtown numbers, once the census reports zip code level data you can actually compare the two

[AlkaliAxel]

The biggest surprise was Wyandotte county. Wow, what a turnaround!

After decades of losses and negative growth it posts a 7.5% gain which was a tad bit above average nationwide

[flyingember]

There's not enough numbers to be certain but it looks like the northland gained 1/3 of a council district.

It's currently at ~2.25 so that puts the northland at ~2.6 districts of 6. The northland will be the majority of the city is 2030 if the rate continues.

It's possible Eric Bunch lives outside the 4th in the 2023 election or the east side loses big into the 3rd

[flyingember]

Found the map I saved, the 2001 redistricting had the northland with less than 2 districts, the historic NE was split between the 1st and 4th. The 4th didn't go north of the river.

It took 20 years but the overall population has shifted so much that basically an entire council district of relative population has shifted northward.

The 4th could come close to surrounding Gladstone

The 1991 redistricting is described in old 911322 so it's possible to go 10 years further back

[AlkaliAxel]

Yeah, Platte County gained 20% population this past decade. Crazy high.

[beautyfromashes]

The northland will be the majority of the city is 2030 if the rate continues.

Will Kansas City be a Republican city then? What's the largest conservative-run city in the United States?

[flyingember]

Found the map I saved, the 2001 redistricting had the northland with less than 2 districts, the historic NE was split between the 1st and 4th. The 4th didn't go north of the river.

It took 20 years but the overall population has shifted so much that basically an entire council district of relative population has shifted northward.

The 4th could come close to surrounding Gladstone

The 1991 redistricting is described in old 911322 so it's possible to go 10 years further back

Edit: 1991 redistricting for south of the river

the 1st district more or less included everything east of the HOA bridge and north of I-70/Indep Ave until Lydia and then 9th/10th all the way to Indep.

The 2nd district in 2001 looks to have the same line along I-70 to Indep Ave to 9th. It turned south at Forest (Paseo West) to I-70, then followed Troost to Armour then west to Broadway, then 43rd, Westport Rd and then to the city limits.

The 4th was Westport Rd to 43rd to Broadway to Armour to Troost and then heading south to Brush Creek over to Tracey and then south to 63rd to the Paseo and then it went towards 85th and Holmes and then over to Wornall and 435 and then the state line.

The 3rd kind of fit between it and the 1st on the NE corner of the 4th

The Platte County shift from 1991 to 2021 has been stunning. It shared a district with the NW corner of Westport just 30 years ago.

[flyingember]

The northland will be the majority of the city is 2030 if the rate continues.

Will Kansas City be a Republican city then? What's the largest conservative-run city in the United States?

Only if the council puts up a vote to get rid of at large seats.

The east side still votes in much higher percentages than the northland so those citywide races make a big difference.

[aknowledgeableperson]

I think a big question would be does Troost still remain the dividing line between the 3rd and 4th Districts?

[Chris Stritzel]

The northland will be the majority of the city is 2030 if the rate continues.

Will Kansas City be a Republican city then? What's the largest conservative-run city in the United States?

The largest city in the U.S. led by a Republican mayor is Fort Worth (927,720 residents).

Of the 50 largest cities in the nation, 11 are led by Republicans (Fort Worth, Jacksonville, Oklahoma City, Fresno, Mesa, Colorado Springs, Omaha, Miami, Virginia Beach, Tulsa, and Arlington), 3 are led by Independents (San Antonio, Honolulu, and Las Vegas). Of the 11 republican mayor cities, Jacksonville's City Council is 13-6 majority Republican with 4 of the 5 "at-large" districts being held by Republicans. So really, the largest city in the U.S. controlled by Republicans is Jacksonville Florida, with a population of 920,570 residents.

I do not think KC will flip political parties unless, as flyingember said, the City Council voted to get rid of the "at-large" seats. Even then, it probably wouldn't make much of a difference.

[beautyfromashes]

I guess the thought was that, right now, we have more suburban residents than urban. That will continue to be the case in larger regard with the Northland and southern suburbs growing. How will this affect urban districts when there are more suburban councilpeople?

[earthling]

Northland gets a good chunk of immigrants (especially from Africa, SE Asia) and inner city exodus. Will be interesting to see the diversity stats for KCMO proper within Northland.

[beautyfromashes]

Northland gets a good chunk of immigrants (especially from Africa, SE Asia) and inner city exodus. Will be interesting to see the diversity stats for KCMO proper within Northland.

Yes. Very interested in Hispanic population. I don’t think the council can redistrict any way and keep from having a Hispanic council person next time.

[FangKC]

I guess the thought was that, right now, we have more suburban residents than urban. That will continue to be the case in larger regard with the Northland and southern suburbs growing. How will this affect urban districts when there are more suburban councilpeople?

If the central city neighborhoods want to retain some power on the Council, then there needs to be a lot more -- and better -- infill development. That means not filling vacant lots with a single-family home again, but a duplexes, triplexes, or SFH with accessory dwellings. It means replacing several adjacent vacant lots with apartments and townhouses instead of single houses.

The primary reason is because we don't have as many people living in each domicile as we did 50 years ago.

We cannot continue to redevelop the east side like most of Beacon Hill has been. That was such a lost opportunity to add real density near large employers.