Status and future of the River Market area??

[KCPowercat]

As an interested buyer I'd provide any feedback.

Doesn't the city have some ownership the old Populous garage? Seems they could carve out a parking agreement

[Walker]

Would love to take a look at the concepts this coming week. PM me

[normalthings]

5th & Main transfer to Port KC approved. Bunch and Ellington tried to put this on hold.

[ToDactivist]

5th & Main transfer to Port KC approved. Bunch and Ellington tried to put this on hold.

what was Bunch's issue?

[ToDactivist]

As an interested buyer I'd provide any feedback.

Doesn't the city have some ownership the old Populous garage? Seems they could carve out a parking agreement

I had heard there had been some lawsuit - unsure issues and who - then the city had been bought out and I think by 3Y. Hearsay so Collison may know

[DaveKCMO]

5th & Main transfer to Port KC approved. Bunch and Ellington tried to put this on hold.

what was Bunch's issue?

Too much fucking parking?

[TheLastGentleman]

5th & Main transfer to Port KC approved. Bunch and Ellington tried to put this on hold.

what was Bunch's issue?

Too much fucking parking?

In this town? Never!

[normalthings]

5th & Main transfer to Port KC approved. Bunch and Ellington tried to put this on hold.

what was Bunch's issue?

Too much fucking parking?

400 spaces of which 160 are for the public.

240 spots for 300 apartments, 30k sqft office, and retail doesn’t sound bad. The office portion alone would command 90-120 spots per the standard downtown office parking ratio. That leaves 120 spaces for the 300 units. If they weren’t required to replace the existing public lot it probably wouldn’t be that bad of a deal. IMHO it starts falling apart with the parking replacement.

[DaveKCMO]

what was Bunch's issue?

Too much fucking parking?

400 spaces of which 160 are for the public.

240 spots for 300 apartments, 30k sqft office, and retail doesn’t sound bad. The office portion alone would command 90-120 spots per the standard downtown office parking ratio. That leaves 120 spaces for the 300 units. If they weren’t required to replace the existing public lot it probably wouldn’t be that bad of a deal. IMHO it starts falling apart with the parking replacement.

Yes, which is all the city. One hand says OMG too much parking and then the other hand insists on full replacement of all spaces and meeting suburban-style minimums.

[Rabble]

what was Bunch's issue?

Too much fucking parking?

400 spaces of which 160 are for the public.

240 spots for 300 apartments, 30k sqft office, and retail doesn’t sound bad. The office portion alone would command 90-120 spots per the standard downtown office parking ratio. That leaves 120 spaces for the 300 units. If they weren’t required to replace the existing public lot it probably wouldn’t be that bad of a deal. IMHO it starts falling apart with the parking replacement.

Any chance of Main becoming a street again? Seems like that would help with both parking and circulation.

[normalthings]

Too much fucking parking?

400 spaces of which 160 are for the public.

240 spots for 300 apartments, 30k sqft office, and retail doesn’t sound bad. The office portion alone would command 90-120 spots per the standard downtown office parking ratio. That leaves 120 spaces for the 300 units. If they weren’t required to replace the existing public lot it probably wouldn’t be that bad of a deal. IMHO it starts falling apart with the parking replacement.

Any chance of Main becoming a street again? Seems like that would help with both parking and circulation.

You could suggest that to Port KC.

[Eon Blue]

I'd think even making Main a one-way NB street to couple with Delaware would help circulation. Put a right-in, right-out entrance to the garage mid block between 5th Street and "4th Street". Then make both intersections at 3rd and 5th right-in, right-out as well and you avoid queues in front of the streetcar.

[ToDactivist]

I'd think even making Main a one-way NB street to couple with Delaware would help circulation. Put a right-in, right-out entrance to the garage mid block between 5th Street and "4th Street". Then make both intersections at 3rd and 5th right-in, right-out as well and you avoid queues in front of the streetcar.

I have seen a plan that does just that. Main one-way NB with ingress into garage and added some parking east of park.

[flyingember]

Don't reconnect Main. It wouldn't be safe for pedestrians to put more cars in a place that is a park today

But right in, right out absolutely. The market should be clockwise travel only during morning market hours. Get people to take Wyandotte. There's a lot of problems with cars turning right from Indep Ave onto Delaware and shifting so no right turn onto Delaware from Indep Ave and no right turn from Delaware to 5th is also needed

A dead-end stub that ends half a block up and people exit onto 5th could work very well. It gets entering traffic off of 5th so except at peak cars waiting to get in aren't blocking the street

[Rabble]

Don't reconnect Main. It wouldn't be safe for pedestrians to put more cars in a place that is a park today

But right in, right out absolutely. The market should be clockwise travel only during morning market hours. Get people to take Wyandotte. There's a lot of problems with cars turning right from Indep Ave onto Delaware and shifting so no right turn onto Delaware from Indep Ave and no right turn from Delaware to 5th is also needed

A dead-end stub that ends half a block up and people exit onto 5th could work very well. It gets entering traffic off of 5th so except at peak cars waiting to get in aren't blocking the street

Reconnect both Main and Fourth just like the city did Walnut, then let developers build on the park. The City Market buildings need to be surrounded by density, not green space and surface lots. Build a park north with a view of the river.

[KCPowercat]

I have no desire for 4th to reconnect to Delaware. I'd prefer Delaware close TBH.

[flyingember]

Getting rid of a park takes a public vote. This one will get public notice because there's no other city park in the river market and a huge number of people are aware of it

[Riverite]

I have no desire for 4th to reconnect to Delaware. I'd prefer Delaware close TBH.

Yes! Close Delaware turn the street parking into sidewalk cafe space. Then push vehicle traffic down one way reconnected main. Will still need local traffic though

[DaveKCMO]

Restore the entire grid to two-way traffic.

[normalthings]

Northeast corner of 3rd & Delaware is for sale for $2.4 million. Parking lot+ building.