OFFICIAL: Port Authority Riverfront Project

[normalthings]

Construction trailer and 3 excavators are on site. Erosion control installed and clearing had commenced

[shinatoo]

Went down to Berkly last Saturday night just to walk around for a bit. I had know idea how active that area had become. I know about BarK but had no idea about all of the other activity, vollyball leagues and soccer games. When this is built out that park is going to packed. Might even change my opnion of developing along the river.

[TheLastGentleman]

I think the river is more of an attraction than most people on here realize. Is it a dirty river? Perhaps. But its our river.

[Riverite]

I love the river.

[horizons82]

I love the river.

Same here. I don’t find it all that much worse than other cities’ rivers? Perhaps you could make a case for stretches of Pittsburgh or Chicago being clean, but I’m not so sure.

[Riverite]

I love the river.

Same here. I don’t find it all that much worse than other cities’ rivers? Perhaps you could make a case for stretches of Pittsburgh or Chicago being clean, but I’m not so sure.

Exactly, not many swim in their rivers, doesn’t mean it can’t be activated. The Elbe for example is not nice around Hamburg, but is utilized well

[TheLastGentleman]

Same here. I don’t find it all that much worse than other cities’ rivers? Perhaps you could make a case for stretches of Pittsburgh or Chicago being clean, but I’m not so sure.

A lot of “dirty” rivers aren’t even that way because of pollution. The Thames in London is infamously gritty, even though it has been cleaned of most pollution. IIRC, it has to do with the way dirt and silt gets stirred up. The Missouri has probably looked the way it does for millennia

[Riverite]

Speaking of I know there is a fence on the west side when going down from the river market To Berkeley on the trail. Does anyone know if it is possible to buy that portion of land and extend the trail through the west bottoms possibly with a pedestrian crossing to kaw point?

[missingkc]

Regarding the state of the Missouri millenia ago, when the prairie grasses were in place and the Mo was a meandering (hence, longer) shallower, braided river (see the Platte in NE), it wouldn't have carried the load it does today. Less tllled ground equals less erosion and slower speed (due to meandering, braiding, and increased drag) equals less ability to carry load. Thanks to the Corps, today's Mo is a big drainage ditch carrying the fields to the gulf.

[normalthings]

Speaking of I know there is a fence on the west side when going down from the river market To Berkeley on the trail. Does anyone know if it is possible to buy that portion of land and extend the trail through the west bottoms possibly with a pedestrian crossing to kaw point?

The land along the river bank is owned by KCMO. Port KC wants to turn it into a trail but I don't think the city has moved any. I am sure youd need to build an under pass at Hannibal similar to the one at the ASB.

[Riverite]

Speaking of I know there is a fence on the west side when going down from the river market To Berkeley on the trail. Does anyone know if it is possible to buy that portion of land and extend the trail through the west bottoms possibly with a pedestrian crossing to kaw point?

The land along the river bank is owned by KCMO. Port KC wants to turn it into a trail but I don't think the city has moved any. I am sure youd need to build an under pass at Hannibal similar to the one at the ASB.

Any way to push this, that trail is such a gem, if they could push it further towards west bottoms and find a way to put a removed bike trail connection to cliff drive, then that would easily be the best East to west ride in the city

[normalthings]

Regarding the state of the Missouri millenia ago, when the prairie grasses were in place and the Mo was a meandering (hence, longer) shallower, braided river (see the Platte in NE), it wouldn't have carried the load it does today. Less tllled ground equals less erosion and slower speed (due to meandering, braiding, and increased drag) equals less ability to carry load. Thanks to the Corps, today's Mo is a big drainage ditch carrying the fields to the gulf.

The river carries a fraction of the sediments that it used to. During Lewis & Clark's expedition the river was closer to a flowing mud than free flowing water. In the early 1900's about 300 million metric tons of sediment now just 55 million tons. In regards to chemical content, the Missouri River is cleaner than Lake of the Ozarks.

https://www.nap.edu/read/13019/chapter/4#21

[rxlexi]

Any way to push this, that trail is such a gem, if they could push it further towards west bottoms and find a way to put a removed bike trail connection to cliff drive, then that would easily be the best East to west ride in the city

I agree with what you're saying and a levee trail to KCK is a no-brainer (can't believe this hasn't happened yet), but the riverfront trail does connect through the West Bottoms to KCK via surface streets and then separated bike path beneath the Lewis & Clark Viaduct. Totally not ideal, I know, but the idea is there and at least the streets are mostly low traffic. There is also a separate bike/ped path that connects the east end of Columbus Park to Cliff Drive. It's admittedly pretty well hidden on the Columbus Park side and quite a grade going up to northeast; I've never seen anyone else using it.

The only on-levee paths in the area that I'm aware of are in Lawrence and Riverside (runs behind Argosy Casino all the way to Parkville, a few hundred feet short of English Landing Park, also due to bullshit railroad related issues). Hoping that changes downtown sooner than later, as Kaw Point is a gem.

[Riverite]

I’ve used the one in Columbus park, and while it’s a high grade it’s really quite beautiful and totally worth it for anyone that likes cycling.

I was thinking separating a bike path that runs next to Lydia and then heading straight with a little bridge over the railway connecting directly to the trail you are talking about. With signs up along the way. That would make it near five miles of continuous biking almost as long as the trolley track. And if you did along west bottoms it would become the longest urban biking trail in KC

[DaveKCMO]

A higher quality crossing -- bike and ped -- at Lydia is so comically overlooked. Add that and finish the bike lane east on 3rd down Industrial Trafficway (there might be space for an uphill striped lane and a sharrow downhill). Problem solved!

[normalthings]

Riverfront was pretty busy again tonight.

Quite a bit of excavation has already taken place for the Northpoint project. Looks like massive drainage tunnels are going in first.

[normalthings]

Isle of Capri redevelopment to begin next year.

Northpoint CORE official groundbreaking to take place tomorrow at 11:30am.

[DaveKCMO]

Isle of Capri redevelopment to begin next year.

Hotel? Parking structure instead of big surface lots? Ditch the fake moat?

[shinatoo]

https://www.kansascity.com/news/busines ... 58417.html

[Riverite]

It would be really nice if they added a hotel or residential on top to give it some height