A “Ball Park Village” of sorts would likely get developed by the same group.Highlander wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:03 pmAll around, it's a better experience for the fans and a better situation for KC. I'm just surprised the new owner is able to see past the parking revenue (and potentially the loss of some food sales as well due to so many nearby restaurants) to push for a DT stadium. He must see the upside. I would think there's also room enough in East Village to build a stadium and provide at least some parking which the Royals could control.flyingember wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:49 am The total money picture probably looks better
There's downtown residents that it could be an impluse event
There's the ability for a business to all go for a weekday game and use their existing parking
There's obviously more hotel rooms, and visitors could fit a game in after a day at a convention or other activity, many of these people picked up a hotel or event shuttle to downtown
It doesn't take much of a new increase in ticket sales to counter the lost parking revenue.
Four tickets at just $20 each is the revenue of 5 cars. One car could hold 3-4 people. Better to increase ticket sales than parking.
A Pick 10 pack is worth a minimum of $16 per game. For a car with four in it that's $64 worth of tickets
Parking is worth $15 per game
It just makes sense for them to upsell tickets
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Kauffman Village?
Kauffman Square?
Kauffman Park?
The stadium naming rights could sell every few years. Naming the area after Kaffman should stick.
Kauffman Square?
Kauffman Park?
The stadium naming rights could sell every few years. Naming the area after Kaffman should stick.
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What are we going to name after David Glass? Brought us a WS win and two AL champs, kept the team in town when nobody wanted it. I know he wasn't loved like Mr. K, but he did as much as Mr. K did. Needs a statue at least.
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Kauffman Village or Square = greater area
Glass Park = an actual park with statue within area, maybe part of stadium grounds
XYZ Stadium at Glass Park in Kauffman Village, KC, MO, USA, NA, Planet Earth, Sol System, Milky Way, Universe #34602
Glass Park = an actual park with statue within area, maybe part of stadium grounds
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Crossposting this here from the book thread
https://cityscenekc.com/downtown-lunche ... park-book/
https://www.kclibrary.org/signature-eve ... rican-city
I finished reading Ballpark recently and thoroughly enjoyed it. I highly recommend it even if you're like me and aren't a big baseball person. It changed how I look at baseball stadiums and how they can be successfully integrated into urban environments.
Paul Goldberger will be speaking at the KCPL Plaza Branch at 6:30pm this coming Thursday.
https://cityscenekc.com/downtown-lunche ... park-book/
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I finished reading Ballpark recently and thoroughly enjoyed it. I highly recommend it even if you're like me and aren't a big baseball person. It changed how I look at baseball stadiums and how they can be successfully integrated into urban environments.
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30,000 seats. 1,000 apartments.
3D Model:
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Youtube Fly Through:
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I'd take it. Apartment design needs tweaking but I like it overall.
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I like it but 30K seating is pretty small, smallest in MLB? Would be more intimate I suppose. The residential component pretty nice. But given it's essentially a fantasy rendering, they should add a few more 'potential' hirise residential towers overlooking left-center field.
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Trying to fit a major league baseball stadium into four square blocks is completely laughable.
You need nine. Minimum.
You need nine. Minimum.
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Not to mention blocking three city streets and removing a freeway exit.
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It's a start to the conversation. Let's go!
Love the apartment building
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Why would they not bury the field so that you come in even to the lower concourse instead of having to climb a shit-ton of stairs? Looks like an ADA nightmare.
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Who is going to pay for this?
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Might be a bit early to start judging the size of the tree wells, etc.beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:20 pm Why would they not bury the field so that you come in even to the lower concourse instead of having to climb a shit-ton of stairs? Looks like an ADA nightmare.
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Just curious if it’s a new design function with a particular purpose. I’ve been to most every stadium and never seen situation where you climb to the concourse and then back down to your seat. I realize this is someone’s fantasy and will likely never be built.KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:25 pm Might be a bit early to start judging the size of the tree wells, etc.
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Coors field = 650,000 square feet
This thing = 750,000 square feet
This thing = 750,000 square feet
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just being a smartass. It seems like the lower level goes down, the field seems below grade?beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:27 pmJust curious if it’s a new design function with a particular purpose. I’ve been to most every stadium and never seen situation where you climb to the concourse and then back down to your seat. I realize this is someone’s fantasy and will likely never be built.KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:25 pm Might be a bit early to start judging the size of the tree wells, etc.
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Look at the video. It’s shows a huge double bank of stairs at the entrance. If the field is below grade, it’s not very deep, definitely much shallower than The K. Why make the first thing everyone has to do is climb a mountain of stairs? I’m underwhelmed by the overall design.KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:31 pm just being a smartass. It seems like the lower level goes down, the field seems below grade?
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Is it possible that some stairs lead up while other entrances go straight in?beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:39 pmLook at the video. It’s shows a huge double bank of stairs at the entrance. If the field is below grade, it’s not very deep, definitely much shallower than The K.KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:31 pm just being a smartass. It seems like the lower level goes down, the field seems below grade?
Regardless, there are very real designs in existence being worked on by interests involved with the east village and royals.
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Well I wouldn't worry about Pendulum being the final architect or like you said, this being the design.beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:39 pmLook at the video. It’s shows a huge double bank of stairs at the entrance. If the field is below grade, it’s not very deep, definitely much shallower than The K. Why make the first thing everyone has to do is climb a mountain of stairs? I’m underwhelmed by the overall design.KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:31 pm just being a smartass. It seems like the lower level goes down, the field seems below grade?