Issues concerning Downtown as described by the Downtown Council. River to 31st Street, I-35 to Bruce R. Watkins.
kenrbnj
Strip mall
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by kenrbnj » Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:23 am
Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑ Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:30 pm
This will help fill in this part of the City.
This image illustrates the sheer quantity of infill required in the city. These surface parking lots are an immense waste of potential tax revenue.
Those who oppose TIF should take note of this photo
earthling
Mark Twain Tower
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by earthling » Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:28 am
There are enough surface lots closer to streetcar line that need to be filled in first.
flyingember
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by flyingember » Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:51 am
earthling wrote: ↑ Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:28 am
There are enough surface lots closer to streetcar line that need to be filled in first.
This attitude is how you stop development.
There's a major bus corridor two blocks over and someone living here could walk to work at the hospital. No streetcar needed.
So many of the parking lots downtown are tied up as parking for a building. This means there's a contract to provide the spaces to someone
earthling
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by earthling » Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:23 am
^Well you have a pro suburban mindset in most of your posts so not surprising you believe that. ALL surface lots need to be developed, with garages if necessary with enough to handle existing spaces plus building on top. Though as public transit improves, at some point fewer spaces will be needed.
You oddly consistently defend surface lots. The target of any urban minded planner is to get rid of all of them in downtowns, especially along high profile transit lines like the streetcar. Yet you consistently represent suburban ideals for downtown KC (and your Plaza posts too).
grovester
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by grovester » Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:56 pm
While I'm all for a good transit nerd throwdown, I don't think he was defending surface lots.
earthling
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by earthling » Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:02 pm
^In addition to other posts he generally has defended owners of surface lots.
flyingember
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by flyingember » Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:42 pm
earthling wrote: ↑ Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:02 pm
^In addition to other posts he generally has defended owners of surface lots.
When you buy land you get to choose if you build on it or not and at what scale.
I'm defending a fundamental principal of a free society that is completely legal.
Basically, what you says "needs" to happen absolutely does not. I'm all for new development but the idea that you should be telling owners what to do and in what order is misguided and will make thing way worse.
If you don't like that get city code changed.
DaveKCMO
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by DaveKCMO » Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:35 am
The Artistry development by Milhaus will be closing 20th Street east of the Oak Street Bridge to west of Children's Mercy Hospital's parking lot entrance from Thursday, February 20th to Friday, February 28th for the completion of the parking garage installation.
flyingember
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by flyingember » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:17 am
The north building is at five floors and it looks like the garage is nearly full height, but not full size.
The triangular-ish balconies on the west side are an interesting design.
FangKC
City Hall
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by FangKC » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:50 am
Looking southwest from 19th Street and Locust.
Looking east from 19th and Oak.
Looking southeast from near 19th and Oak.
smh
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by smh » Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:12 pm
I really like this project. Making some pretty great from a slightly goofy site.
FangKC
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by FangKC » Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:03 am
Looking west down 20th Street from Locust.
Looking north up Locust from 20th Street.
Looking north up the east side of Locust from 20th Street.
The backside of the building on the NE corner of 20th and Locust.
Looking west from Cherry Street between 19th and 20th streets.
flyingember
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by flyingember » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:33 pm
The first bricks were going on the building that's white in the image immediatelly above
it was hard to get a feel with how few there were but it looked like they were using real bricks, not thin veeneer, though it was hard to tell
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by DaveKCMO » Thu May 28, 2020 7:41 pm
Full sized bricks on the exterior, if that matters to anyone.
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by DaveKCMO » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:55 pm
Thanks for the aerial. Looks great! They sure are taking their time though...
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by FangKC » Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:28 am