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Re: City Center Square for sale

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I tend to pack ultra light when I travel and sometimes misjudge possible weather so might buy a cheap rain jacket, shorts/flipflops, umbrella, etc. I could see hotel visitors going for clothing basics/accessories more than locals. Or if having to stay longer than expected, maybe pickup cheap socks/undies/tshirts/etc.

If Target goes into CCS or whatever it's now called, they may not do the prepared food counter given Cosentino's already does (per Target's apparent non-compete with locals).
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Re: City Center Square for sale

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I don't think comparing the Minneapolis one has much value. That's their flagship urban store meant to show off.
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earthling wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:47 am I tend to pack ultra light when I travel and sometimes misjudge possible weather so might buy a cheap rain jacket, shorts/flipflops, umbrella, etc. I could see hotel visitors going for clothing basics/accessories more than locals. Or if having to stay longer than expected, maybe pickup cheap socks/undies/tshirts/etc.

If Target goes into CCS or whatever it's now called, they may not do the prepared food counter given Cosentino's already does (per Target's apparent non-compete with locals).
Airline baggage fees are driving some of what Earthling is talking about. People used to be able to bring a couple of large bags on planes without charge, and bring all those extra things they MIGHT need. Now, no one is going to pay baggage fees for those things when they might be able to buy a cheap version at their travel site.
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Re: City Center Square for sale

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some completely random comment on reddit the other day said the people behind parlor would be picking and managing the new tenants for city center square. not sure what this does for target rumors, or whether it's worth any more than i paid for it.
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Re: City Center Square for sale

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Yes, I can quash the Target in CCS rumor. I've spoken with someone connected with the redevelopment and it is planned to be a food hall concept. Escalators are going away and some type of stadium seating staircase (think Populous office in renovated Board of Trade) was described. Sounds like this will be a really great renovation and they have some new office tenants lined up which will be big-ish news.
Now, that's not to say that Target hasn't been looking elsewhere downtown...
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Re: City Center Square for sale

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is that to say Target HAS been looking elsewhere?
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Critical_Mass wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:37 pm Yes, I can quash the Target in CCS rumor. I've spoken with someone connected with the redevelopment and it is planned to be a food hall concept. Escalators are going away and some type of stadium seating staircase (think Populous office in renovated Board of Trade) was described. Sounds like this will be a really great renovation and they have some new office tenants lined up which will be big-ish news.
Now, that's not to say that Target hasn't been looking elsewhere downtown...
Will the "food hall" be open in the evenings and have lots of external signage showing what's available and draw in public/tourists?
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KCPowercat wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:30 am is that to say Target HAS been looking elsewhere?
hell yeah back on the rampant unfounded rumor mill!! i'll go first. flashcube! ten main! mark twain building!!
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KCPowercat wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:30 am is that to say Target HAS been looking elsewhere?
Yes but I don't know if this was a developer proposal trying to persuade Target to be part of a project or if it was initiated by Target themselves.
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Re: City Center Square for sale

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Critical_Mass wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:49 am
KCPowercat wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:30 am is that to say Target HAS been looking elsewhere?
Yes but I don't know if this was a developer proposal trying to persuade Target to be part of a project or if it was initiated by Target themselves.
I’ve been asking around on this rumor as I hadn’t heard anything about it before it came out. I did hear that Target has looked at the KC market with the expansion of the streetcar but that it would be more of development similar to Whole Foods. Nothing seems imminent..(from what I’ve heard). Would much rather have it DT as a catalyst for more development, but I don’t think that is the direction this one will go.
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wahoowa wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:12 am
KCPowercat wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:30 am is that to say Target HAS been looking elsewhere?
hell yeah back on the rampant unfounded rumor mill!! i'll go first. flashcube! ten main! mark twain building!!
Don't forget in the new proposed development at 3rd & Grand. I think a Target kitty-corner from the City Market would be an interesting location.
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Re: City Center Square for sale

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Full-size suburban Super Target in the north loop?
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Re: City Center Square for sale

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I predict Target goes somewhere near 27th and Grand/Main as part of a new development coinciding with the streetcar extension. Trader Joe's will also join nearby.
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Re: City Center Square for sale

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seems more than just a rando prediction :/
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KCPowercat wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:41 pm seems more than just a rando prediction :/
Because of how I worded it and no more. :lol: :lol: :cry:
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shinatoo wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:53 pm Full-size suburban Super Target in the north loop?
Eww, No.
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Critical_Mass wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:37 pm Yes, I can quash the Target in CCS rumor. I've spoken with someone connected with the redevelopment and it is planned to be a food hall concept. Escalators are going away and some type of stadium seating staircase (think Populous office in renovated Board of Trade) was described. Sounds like this will be a really great renovation and they have some new office tenants lined up which will be big-ish news.
Now, that's not to say that Target hasn't been looking elsewhere downtown...
[-o< Any hints on tenants?
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Re: City Center Square for sale

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normalthings wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:21 pm
Critical_Mass wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:37 pm Yes, I can quash the Target in CCS rumor. I've spoken with someone connected with the redevelopment and it is planned to be a food hall concept. Escalators are going away and some type of stadium seating staircase (think Populous office in renovated Board of Trade) was described. Sounds like this will be a really great renovation and they have some new office tenants lined up which will be big-ish news.
Now, that's not to say that Target hasn't been looking elsewhere downtown...
[-o< Any hints on tenants?
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Re: City Center Square for sale

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normalthings wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:21 pm
Critical_Mass wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:37 pm Yes, I can quash the Target in CCS rumor. I've spoken with someone connected with the redevelopment and it is planned to be a food hall concept. Escalators are going away and some type of stadium seating staircase (think Populous office in renovated Board of Trade) was described. Sounds like this will be a really great renovation and they have some new office tenants lined up which will be big-ish news.
Now, that's not to say that Target hasn't been looking elsewhere downtown...
[-o< Any hints on tenants?
Food hall tenants, no clue. I forgot the name of the company which will be managing the space. I hadn't heard of them before but they are local.
Office tenants: I can't say but it is an expansion of an existing office user elsewhere (net new, so no poaching)
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Re: City Center Square for sale

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Food hall is a solid idea for the location but sure wish they would have found a way to face the street more. Getting rid of the street level gym and putting that downstairs for example.
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