pash wrote:flyingember wrote: Neither place is a place for a huge parking garage, especially when we have in excess of 100,000 parking spots downtown. We haven't even scratched the surface to need new parking.
flyingember wrote:I bet every parking garage and lot downtown could support another 4-5000 workers within three blocks without adding any more spots
And yet you've argued repeatedly in the Cerner thread that it would be flatly impossible to add a few thousand workers to a hypothetical Cerner headquarters downtown, because parking. ...
That's so not what I said and it's not even the same thing.
http://kcrag.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1 ... rs#p549630
As you can see to mimic the Bannister campus we're talking approx. 5x 3200 person towers. Let's hypothetically maximize the chance of sharing parking by spreading them out around downtown and using 9 city blocks around them for parking, figuring that's a reasonable walking distance.
You need to find around 355 free spots per block to not build parking for Cerner. In terms of current structures to add parking that's one tower and three garages the size of the one NW corner of 12th/Grand. So for each of these five buildings you need an entire block of parking that's 6-7 stories tall. That's a huge amount of parking spaces.
If you halve the building size and double to 10x buildings you increase the difficulty of the problem not because it's harder to find available parking for less people but because finding land to build on downtown becomes increasingly difficult without overlapping with another high density use that only makes finding parking even harder than before the doubling of structures.
A downtown cerner campus would be the greatest concentration of cars downtown. It would require the equivalent of 2-3 blocks filled with parking to the height of One Light. Think about what that would look like downtown. And think of what traffic would look like around it with such a concentration of cars in one spot.
That's quite a bit different from adding 4-5000 workers in buildings spread across approx 500 blocks of downtown without adding more parking. That's 10 spots per block needed for parking. That might not be doable everywhere downtown but it's much closer to something that's doable today.