The quotes in that article from Bill Dietrich and Travis Kiefer are ridiculous. To reiterate: this is a bad project that is bad for downtown and should not be built regardless of whether it includes a drive-thru. This project should not be built in any form. It is a low-density structure in a high-density neighborhood. We have to be more imaginative or we will eventually end up with a downtown full of standalone Wendy's. In fact, I hear that Sonic is considering a drive-in on the site of the old Sieden's Furs building.
They should build a Sonic in Case Park. Think of the great views. You be able to see that Sonic for miles in many directions. A beacon of SuperSonic Bacon Double-Cheeseburgers and Tots.
I can't imagine this place stays open if most downtown residents avoid it. Drive thrus don't belong in urban areas and Broadway inside the loop is one of the only true urban commercial streets in kcmo. This is an urban planning travesty. Hopefully it will be replaced with a different project soon.
GRID wrote:I can't imagine this place stays open if most downtown residents avoid it. Drive thrus don't belong in urban areas and Broadway inside the loop is one of the only true urban commercial streets in kcmo. This is an urban planning travesty. Hopefully it will be replaced with a different project soon.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think it will matter if downtown residents avoid it or not. With a drive-thru, they will get the majority of their business from downtown workers and suburban drivers I'm guessing. I would drive-thru (not this location) a Jimmy Johns in a hurry, but I'm not going to waste my time walking there when there are so many other downtown food choices....guess I just made their case for a drive-thru.
Would it be immoral to encourage drivers on Broadway not to allow cars leaving to pull out onto Broadway. Like when traffic stops when the light changes deliberately not leave a gap for a customer car to emerge. Or is that a little too passive agressive?
I went to lunch with a friend who works a few blocks north of the future JJ's demo site. He's not really a downtown guy at all, didn't even want to work downtown until he took the job and realized it wasn't that bad. Anyway, we drove by it and he asked, "Why the hell did they tear down that building?"
I said, "They're putting in a Jimmy John's drive thru."
And even he was astounded at how stupid that is. I was proud. I might have cried a little.
Every downtown interest needs to converge together and stop this. Not just to prevent from happening in future but to stop this atrocity in its path - with nukes and full photon torpedoes.
earthling wrote:Every downtown interest needs to converge together and stop this. Not just to prevent from happening in future but to stop this atrocity in its path - with nukes and full photon torpedoes.
GRID wrote:I can't imagine this place stays open if most downtown residents avoid it. Drive thrus don't belong in urban areas and Broadway inside the loop is one of the only true urban commercial streets in kcmo. This is an urban planning travesty. Hopefully it will be replaced with a different project soon.
There wouldn't be any political momentum to pressure this place to close once open and being an active 'urban planning travesty.'
Urban planning has little to no real world political currency in the rust belt or KC.
People are gonna get high, get drunk, eat Jimmy John's.
Demosthenes wrote:Nah, you're gonna want to go down to Milwaukee Deli Co.
This little Drive-Thru Jimmy is going to look pretty meek and sub-par next door to the glorious architecture of the Majestic building.
Milwaukee Deli Co., no drive-thru for the late-nighters, drunk drivers.
Agreed on yr second point.
Ahha that's what MDC is missing, a drive thru. Somebody should tell them it's obviously impossible to make money downtown without one. Maybe it's not too late haha.
Interesting it is Jimmy John's causing this controversy. They obviously are able to integrate into a neighborhood like the store at 11th & Grand and the new store in Brookside. Such a disappointment they couldn't have done that here.
