Wow, there are tons of liens being filed against a lot of P&L businesses - 801 Chophouse, Yummo, Chipotle...what the heck? Why aren't they paying their bills?LenexatoKCMO wrote: Reading Joyce Smith's Column this morning, it sounds like 801 Chophouse is quickly following Bice down the road to nowhere fast. Another suit from Cordish for back rent followed by a dozen or more mechanics liens from the contractors who finished it.
Haven't you heard...the Government is now giving away tax free money for failing businesses! Its all the rave these daystrailerkid wrote: Although I wasn't downtown for the Britney concert, I saw the scene.
I'm going to continue to reiterate the fact that P+L NEEDS more events, residents, conventioneers and hotels immediately around it. There is no way the nightlife/restaurant/kc live scene can fully succeed without more general activity around it. It is a tourist district and the city needs to engineer plans for its future success on the investment made. I am not making these points because the place was dead last night, but because it wasn't brimming with life and I see the possibilities.
I agree. Around 6:00 I was driving back to my office. Took the 13th St. exit down toward Main, forgetting about the concert. There were probably 15,000 girls/women running around in a frenzy. There were so many people running around DT, I had to take a detour to get back to 11th and Walnut. Insane.trailerkid wrote: Although I wasn't downtown for the Britney concert, I saw the scene.
I'm going to continue to reiterate the fact that P+L NEEDS more events, residents, conventioneers and hotels immediately around it. There is no way the nightlife/restaurant/kc live scene can fully succeed without more general activity around it. It is a tourist district and the city needs to engineer plans for its future success on the investment made. I am not making these points because the place was dead last night, but because it wasn't brimming with life and I see the possibilities.
I've posted a while back that of all these things needed to bring more people in, the only one Cordish has direct control of is more KC Live events. P&L isn't itself enough of a draw, at least enough to keep it busy daily. More events are needed (Midland, Sprint, Bartle, Municipal, Music Hall, etc) but Cordish can only control KC Live events. They need to add events Sun-Wed evenings, when the district is least busy.trailerkid wrote: Although I wasn't downtown for the Britney concert, I saw the scene.
I'm going to continue to reiterate the fact that P+L NEEDS more events, residents, conventioneers and hotels immediately around it. There is no way the nightlife/restaurant/kc live scene can fully succeed without more general activity around it. It is a tourist district and the city needs to engineer plans for its future success on the investment made. I am not making these points because the place was dead last night, but because it wasn't brimming with life and I see the possibilities.
AMC could very well also be considered an event space (ala Midland) which will draw crowds to the district. Daily/nightly movie screenings could create more pedestrian activity than one event at the Sprint Center where many park/leave.ignatius wrote: I've posted a while back that of all these things needed to bring more people in, the only one Cordish has direct control of is more KC Live events. P&L isn't itself enough of a draw, at least enough to keep it busy daily. More events are needed (Midland, Sprint, Bartle, Municipal, Music Hall, etc) but Cordish can only control KC Live events. They need to add events Sun-Wed evenings, when the district is least busy.
More residents/hotels/retail stores are needed but can't be counted on anytime soon. KC Live events can be a more easily executable near term solution (compared to other options).
They're still on the board, but shelved for the near future. The broadway was shelved before these "Times"...it was simply something where they pulled it due to a lack of backing/pre-leasing/etc...but I suppose that happens when you try and offer a building full of 500k + condo's in a metro with many other options in the 500 and up range.drramos101 wrote: I hope this project hasn't failed now like the others, it really sucks seeing so many good looking projects die ( example: The Broadway Condos ), but I guess if it has, it's just another sign of the times. :shock:
trailerkid wrote: Although I wasn't downtown for the Britney concert, I saw the scene.
I'm going to continue to reiterate the fact that P+L NEEDS more events, residents, conventioneers and hotels immediately around it. There is no way the nightlife/restaurant/kc live scene can fully succeed without more general activity around it. It is a tourist district and the city needs to engineer plans for its future success on the investment made. I am not making these points because the place was dead last night, but because it wasn't brimming with life and I see the possibilities.
Does anybody know if KC Live is going to host all the free concerts again this summer? Country Thursdays, Rock Wednesdays or whatever it was? I haven't heard anything about it yet, but that was a fun mid-week activityKCTigerFan wrote: Cordish can only program/plan so many events. The ROI isn't there to book events every day. I would say 180 events with 30+ larger concerts and many more partner/charity events is more than most any developer in the country does. That being said, there is always room to try and add more. I do believe that the Mainstreet, Convention Center, CVA, Sprint Center... All need to continue to make commitments to increasing traffic downtown.
The company I work for recently moved to a new location and spent several mil renovating it. Let me just say contractors are a pain in the butt...they have no patience...they even want to come and personally pick up their checks even though they are in the same city and it would arrive in the mail in 2 days tops.ignatius wrote: Lawsuits seem to be a natural process for paying a bill or resolving any tiny issue in the construction world. OTOH, is an obvious problem when customers aren't paying the bills.
Why should they have patience? Why should they have to finance your construction?justin8216 wrote: The company I work for recently moved to a new location and spent several mil renovating it. Let me just say contractors are a pain in the butt...they have no patience...they even want to come and personally pick up their checks even though they are in the same city and it would arrive in the mail in 2 days tops.
