I agree. Downtown may have lost this one, but the Kansas City area wins, IMHO.im2kull wrote: Whats in your heart, comes out your mouth. Whats in KC, spills into the neighboring area, it betters the community as a whole.
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That's all we can do now.StL_Dan wrote: But, let's move on. Hopefully, the improvements at the K will dramatically reduce the sterile ambience of the place.
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Thankfully, it looks as thought that may be dramatically changing over the next 5 years.KCPowercat wrote: well nothing has proven out yet.....30 years of a downtown park and STL had nothing to show for it...they were the example of the people against downtown ballparks. Now run away.
It will be interesting to see how the new and improved TSC and Busch III/BPV develop simoultaneously the next several years.
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You keep rationalizing that, while we enjoy Ballpark Village and the shot in the arm it adds to our DT. Have fun saving that extra few hundred mill amoritized over 25 years and divided over hundereds of thousands of people.....that was a great decision.KCPowercat wrote: I think we'll be building a new stadium about the time ST. Louis has to build another one....so in the short term, we've saved a little cash
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yup, we're getting all of that too...but it's larger than ballpark village. We shall both enjoy.
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I'll give you credit for P&L, it's one of the only things you guys seem to be doing right. But voting renovations and no roof?! Dumb.KCPowercat wrote: yup, we're getting all of that too...but it's larger than ballpark village. We shall both enjoy.
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Not to mention, were getting the sprint center, and stl is losing the blues...have fun with that oneKCPowercat wrote: yup, we're getting all of that too...but it's larger than ballpark village. We shall both enjoy.
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Where are the Blues going? And when?im2kull wrote: Not to mention, were getting the sprint center, and stl is losing the blues...have fun with that one
This oughta be good.
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Pretty sure we're not losing the blues...they just got a new owner. You should keep up on current events.im2kull wrote: Not to mention, were getting the sprint center, and stl is losing the blues...have fun with that one
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I'm fine with the renovations to Arrowhead, but crap, the Royals need to deliver a decent product to get me excited about going out to the K. New bathrooms aren't going to cut it for me.
As far as downtown, let's not get too full of ourselves.
We still have to deal with:
-no decent mass transit.
-high vacancy rates in the Class A office space.
-a massive debt load on the Entertainment District that unless the retail meets projections, will have to be heavily subsidized by the city.
-a lagging convention business.
-no major tenant for the Arena.
-a Performing Arts Center plan that is heavily short of funds.
-sewers that are obsolete.
A downtown stadium wouldn't have cured all those ills, but it would have helped create better mass transit, helped the retail district and helped the Class A office space.
Fuck.
As far as downtown, let's not get too full of ourselves.
We still have to deal with:
-no decent mass transit.
-high vacancy rates in the Class A office space.
-a massive debt load on the Entertainment District that unless the retail meets projections, will have to be heavily subsidized by the city.
-a lagging convention business.
-no major tenant for the Arena.
-a Performing Arts Center plan that is heavily short of funds.
-sewers that are obsolete.
A downtown stadium wouldn't have cured all those ills, but it would have helped create better mass transit, helped the retail district and helped the Class A office space.
Fuck.
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Why must you sound like an ass?loft_dweller wrote: I'll give you credit for P&L, it's one of the only things you guys seem to be doing right. But voting renovations and no roof?! Dumb.
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No where, he has no clue what he is talking about, in fact the new owner is talking upgrades to savvis and a possible Basketball team.StL_Dan wrote: Where are the Blues going? And when?
This oughta be good.
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No...SMART!! We keep the teams, and make it cheaper on ourselves. And I am sure this is not the last we have heard of the rolling roof...loft_dweller wrote: I'll give you credit for P&L, it's one of the only things you guys seem to be doing right. But voting renovations and no roof?! Dumb.
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the roof isn't over yet.....I'll go ahead and predict the super bowl will be in KC.
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It's a shame we don't have a Mayor who's an advocate for DT - he/she could repeat your points and make a strong case to the electorate. Oh yeah, we used to.TheNorthlander wrote: I fine with the renovations to Arrowhead , but crap, the Royals need to deliver a decent product to get me excited about going out to the K. New bathrooms aren't going to cut it for me.
As far as downtown, let's not get too full of ourselves.
We still have to deal with:
-no decent mass transit.
-high vacancy rates in the Class A office space.
-a massive debt load on the Entertainment District that unless the retail meets projections, will have to be heavily subsidized by the city.
-a lagging convention business.
-no tenant for the Arena.
-a Performing Arts Center plan that is heavily short of funds.
-sewers that are obsolete.
A downtown stadium wouldn't have cured all those ills, but it would have helped create better mass transit, helped the retail district and helped the Class A office space.
Fuck.
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Yea and a superbowl would have forced this city and state to spend some damn money and clean up the city and get transit going. (well wishfull thinking anyway)TheNorthlander wrote: I fine with the renovations to Arrowhead , but crap, the Royals need to deliver a decent product to get me excited about going out to the K. New bathrooms aren't going to cut it for me.
As far as downtown, let's not get too full of ourselves.
We still have to deal with:
-no decent mass transit.
-high vacancy rates in the Class A office space.
-a massive debt load on the Entertainment District that unless the retail meets projections, will have to be heavily subsidized by the city.
-a lagging convention business.
-no major tenant for the Arena.
-a Performing Arts Center plan that is heavily short of funds.
-sewers that are obsolete.
A downtown stadium wouldn't have cured all those ills, but it would have helped create better mass transit, helped the retail district and helped the Class A office space.
Fuck.
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And I predict the Royals will be gone before the leases expire in 2031KCPowercat wrote: the roof isn't over yet.....I'll go ahead and predict the super bowl will be in KC.
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I also predict the Roof will happen.
The Hunts will most definitely want the recognition of accomplishing the task of bringing a SB to KC now that they've saved a bundle on coaxing the public to finance their place of business.
The Hunts will most definitely want the recognition of accomplishing the task of bringing a SB to KC now that they've saved a bundle on coaxing the public to finance their place of business.
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We can loan you Slay...if you'd voted for the rolling roof that is!kevink wrote: It's a shame we don't have a Mayor who's an advocate for DT - he/she could repeat your points and make a strong case to the electorate. Oh yeah, we used to.
[br] stop the trolling stl/kc stuff...has nothing to do with this thread.
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as in contracted or moved? You and chef are very similiar...you find "users" on here that you don't like they opinion on one thing about and you then follow them around the site disagreeing or posting against whatever they say. Let it go dude...life is too much fun.lock&load wrote: And I predict the Royals will be gone before the leases expire in 2031