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DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:54 pm New trains are arriving and should be in service soon! I believe these are semi-fixed trainsets, so you won't have one crappy coach and a brand new one in the same consist.

normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:32 pm
An Amtrak Engineer told me UP requires a minimum number of axles per train. Assuming that hasn’t changed, they will still have to carry those random old baggage and passenger cars along.

Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:57 pm

normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:32 pm
An Amtrak Engineer told me UP requires a minimum number of axles per train. Assuming that hasn’t changed, they will still have to carry those random old baggage and passenger cars along.

That'll look trashy. You have all the new and shiny stuff and then the ugly.

normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:54 pm

Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:57 pm

normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:32 pm
An Amtrak Engineer told me UP requires a minimum number of axles per train. Assuming that hasn’t changed, they will still have to carry those random old baggage and passenger cars along.

That'll look trashy. You have all the new and shiny stuff and then the ugly.

He said the State of Missouri only pays for or allows so many revenue cars on the River Runner. Number of axles for MODOT ‘s revenue cars and the minimum UP allows has to be filled somehow so they pickup old junk

shinatoo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:23 am

normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:54 pm

Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:57 pm

That'll look trashy. You have all the new and shiny stuff and then the ugly.

He said the State of Missouri only pays for or allows so many revenue cars on the River Runner. Number of axles for MODOT ‘s revenue cars and the minimum UP allows has to be filled somehow so they pickup old junk

I assume they are prohibited from moving any kind of freight?

normalthings wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:58 am

shinatoo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:23 am

normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:54 pm

He said the State of Missouri only pays for or allows so many revenue cars on the River Runner. Number of axles for MODOT ‘s revenue cars and the minimum UP allows has to be filled somehow so they pickup old junk

I assume they are prohibited from moving any kind of freight?

Amtrak once had a vibrant freight business. They've pulled roadrailers, refrigerated cars, and mail/materials cars. IIRC, it fell apart due to freight railroad complaints (imho those are fair), time/complexity, negative schedule impacts, etc. Upon further review, it appears that the freight cars couldn't keep up with increasing speeds on the Amtrak network either.

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/ ... ?1,1676850

T_Wero wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:36 am Not super thrilled about these. There is a lot of exposed stuff on the underside of the car that will be susceptible to snow build up and freezing.

The seats also look uncomfortable...


(I have a picture of the interior....but trying to post it it gives me the message the board attachment quota has been reached)

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:30 pm Interior pics of the new cars:

Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:28 pm

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:30 pm Interior pics of the new cars:

I'm looking forward to these going into service. Much more modern looking.

Now if only we could get the speed increased, then I would be very happy.

earthling wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:54 am Need to also improve reliability of service but difficult when rails shared with freight industry.

smh wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:38 am

Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:28 pm

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:30 pm Interior pics of the new cars:

I'm looking forward to these going into service. Much more modern looking.

Now if only we could get the speed increased, then I would be very happy.

Add a mid-day train and you've got yourself a service.