MidtownCat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:54 pm
As an architect you would know that if you’re value engineering close to $150 million at schematic and looking to cut more, the design isn’t going to magically get better.
VE can be cut from both front of house and back of house. In a project as engineering-heavy as an airport, it's a good bet that a large amount of those cuts will never be noticed by the average traveler. Plenty of the cuts will though! Only a tiny fraction of projects
don't get VE'd. SOM is well versed enough to know that was coming. What Pollyanna out there didn't think that would happen?
As a business person you'd know Edgemoor was chosen for their financials, not the design. I feel like people forget that. This was always about the money and what the real client, Southwest, wanted. And Southwest clearly has a type, see: Houston Hobby, Midway in Chicago, or Dallas Love Field.
My whole original point is we still do not have enough information to determine the quality level, other than it's going to be in the mid-range. Anything outside of that is purely speculation.
GRID wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:00 pm
I think it's great that KC is finally getting a new terminal but I'm pretty disappointed that it's going to be so bare bones. Did they really even need to hire an airport terminal architectural firm if all they were going to do is throw up a big box with a flat roof and a bunch of "off the shelf" designs for everything else (gates etc)?
You're right, these renderings are bad, especially compared against SOM's own renderings. That's why I'm saying the renderings are almost hindering the perception more than they're clarifying.
For example, look at this rendering:
- The wood texture on the ceiling is undefined. Is it a laminated panel? Wood planks? Who knows! It's wood-esque...
- The tile is a grey mass. Terrazzo? Tile? Who knows!
- When's the last time you saw airport signage that minimalist?
- There's no lighiting in the lobby! The only lights shown is some strip lighting above security.
- What's that on the wall? Sandstone? Marble tile?
- How's that glazing being joined? Mullions? Butt glazed? Spider glazing?
You get the point. The design can go a number of different ways, but there needs to be more detail, either written or rendered.