Bird Scooters Have Landed

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by flyingember » Thu May 09, 2019 8:46 pm

Bird, RideKC and Spin bringing scooters

Some will be on the Troost and Prospect cooridors. Good to see public transit not just chasing richer parts of towns.

Apparently were 250,000 rides since last summer. At only $3 each that’s $750,000. So the service is clearly profitable per scooter only through lots of rides.

The fee of $1 per scooter per day means limiting the number to how many can be used is important.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by DaveKCMO » Thu May 09, 2019 8:57 pm

The RideKC scooters (and e-bikes) are powered by Drop Mobility. Download the app here: http://ridekcbike.com/

Spin is now owned by Ford. Excited to see how they launch here. Lots of choices.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by beautyfromashes » Thu May 09, 2019 10:01 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 8:57 pm
The RideKC scooters (and e-bikes) are powered by Drop Mobility. Download the app here: http://ridekcbike.com/

Spin is now owned by Ford. Excited to see how they launch here. Lots of choices.
Are ride prices the same for all? Curious of their different schemes.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by KCPowercat » Thu May 09, 2019 10:10 pm

Spin saying region not active. Drop app nothing about scooter prices yet.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by DaveKCMO » Thu May 09, 2019 10:25 pm

KCPowercat wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 10:10 pm
Spin saying region not active. Drop app nothing about scooter prices yet.
Spin is a new launch, so they don't have any ops here yet. It will take them time.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by normalthings » Thu May 09, 2019 11:12 pm

flyingember wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 8:46 pm
Bird, RideKC and Spin bringing scooters

Some will be on the Troost and Prospect cooridors. Good to see public transit not just chasing richer parts of towns.

Apparently were 250,000 rides since last summer. At only $3 each that’s $750,000. So the service is clearly profitable per scooter only through lots of rides.

The fee of $1 per scooter per day means limiting the number to how many can be used is important.
How many scooters and e-bikes are they allowed? It seems that there are many fees/regulations associated with this Pilot.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by KCPowercat » Thu May 09, 2019 11:30 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 10:25 pm
KCPowercat wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 10:10 pm
Spin saying region not active. Drop app nothing about scooter prices yet.
Spin is a new launch, so they don't have any ops here yet. It will take them time.
Oh I thought I saw a story saying they would launch later on Thursday after the announcement. Guess that didn't necessarily mean with actual equipment

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by earthling » Thu May 09, 2019 11:52 pm

So does each operator still have a 500 scooter limit each? I'm seeing Bird nests deeper into neighborhoods off main drags... Columbus Park, Southmoreland, Hyde Park, etc. Ridership also seems a lot higher than last summer.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by scooterj » Fri May 10, 2019 10:27 am

DaveKCMO wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:27 pm
Bird appears to have a new cage, effective today...

Did NKC ban them? I know I've seen people riding scooters over the bridge since you posted this back in March.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by DaveKCMO » Fri May 10, 2019 5:05 pm

earthling wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 11:52 pm
So does each operator still have a 500 scooter limit each? I'm seeing Bird nests deeper into neighborhoods off main drags... Columbus Park, Southmoreland, Hyde Park, etc. Ridership also seems a lot higher than last summer.
Initial is 500 per -- so RideKC could have 1,000 devices (e-bikes and scooters combined).

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by earthling » Fri May 10, 2019 5:08 pm

Any chance RideKC ebikes/scooters can be combined into the RideKC bus app? Might attract more riders who already have app installed. Or maybe a button or menu item to install/launch Drop app from RideKC app.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by normalthings » Fri May 10, 2019 5:24 pm

scooterj wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 10:27 am
DaveKCMO wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:27 pm
Bird appears to have a new cage, effective today...

Did NKC ban them? I know I've seen people riding scooters over the bridge since you posted this back in March.
Follow up: What would happen if an NKC Scooter crosses into KCMO?

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by DaveKCMO » Fri May 10, 2019 6:30 pm

Border war.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by TheLastGentleman » Fri May 10, 2019 6:38 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 6:30 pm
Border war.
I was ynder the impression that they immediately explode

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by earthling » Sat May 11, 2019 1:18 pm

Will be interesting to see if RideKC scooters are placed broader throughout the bus system or in similar areas as Bird and Spin.

When does Spin launch in KC?

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by DaveKCMO » Sun May 12, 2019 8:32 am

earthling wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 5:08 pm
Any chance RideKC ebikes/scooters can be combined into the RideKC bus app? Might attract more riders who already have app installed. Or maybe a button or menu item to install/launch Drop app from RideKC app.
A new app will replace the existing RideKC and RideKC Freedom apps this year, and it will display other modes (bike/scooter/car share).

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by DaveKCMO » Sun May 12, 2019 8:34 am

earthling wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 1:18 pm
Will be interesting to see if RideKC scooters are placed broader throughout the bus system or in similar areas as Bird and Spin.
That is exactly why we lent them the RideKC brand... expect full integration with transit (eventually). BikeWalkKC owns the devices, so they'd only go away if the city said they had to (and even then they could be deployed in other area cities).

Bird hasn't been very transit friendly. Spin's attitude is TBD.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by earthling » Sun May 12, 2019 12:47 pm

With Bird reducing the KC operating area the RideKC scooters will be good to fill in gaps, especially if focused on bus stops.

Good to hear that RideKC apps will be consolidated. Possible monthly bus pass holders could get scooter/ebike discounts?

edit: Looking at Drop app (for RideKC eBikes), looks like service area is actually not much larger than Bird. eBike service area is to 75th street and just E of Prospect. Bird is to about 63rd/Meyer and also just E of Prospect.

Will RideKC scooter area of operation be same as eBikes?

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by DaveKCMO » Sun May 12, 2019 7:19 pm

earthling wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 12:47 pm
Possible monthly bus pass holders could get scooter/ebike discounts?
If you buy the Bike+Bus pass ($50/mo), you get unlimited B-cycle checkouts and unlimited local bus rides. Drop credits will eventually be part of that deal. That's the same price as a monthly bus pass.

https://ridekc.org/news/bike-and-bus-pass

Eventually, this will all be consolidated in the new app.
Will RideKC scooter area of operation be same as eBikes?
Yes.

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Re: Bird Scooters Have Landed

Post by wahoowa » Mon May 13, 2019 9:33 am

is my generally hazy recollection correct that lime pulled out never to be heard from again not long after lucas/the council pushed for all the scooter $ to go into affordable housing instead of bike/micro-mobile infrastructure, and if so, is that timing just a silly coincidence?

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