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Agree with all being said above.

One minor issue; instead of a stand alone building for the museum, I was thinking something along the lines of a couple of levels of ground floor space in a new mid-rise office or apartment tower.
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The problem is new construction is very expensive, and thus needs to earn rent on as much square footage as possible. That's why I said the American Jazz Museum and Negro League's Baseball museums would likely be combined in a larger facility at some point. I don't know if they pay rent now in the Jazz District. The City still subsidizes them. Depending on the financial situation of the City in the future, these subsidies might end.

However, there may come a time that the City leadership can no longer subsidize the space needs of those museums. They City might sell the Jazz District buildings it owns to a private party who will want rent.

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normalthings wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:43 pm
30% Design Package has been completed and submitted to Port KC. The Bike/Walk Bridge makes up “a significant amount” of the project cost.
Jon Stevens was on Grill Nation again today.
- mentioned Port KC's desire to extend streetcar to the East Bottoms and/or Isle of Capri.
- mentioned the design has progressed to the point that Port KC can/needs to get the financing lined up.

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normalthings wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:11 am
Jon Stevens was on Grill Nation again today.
- mentioned Port KC's desire to extend streetcar to the East Bottoms and/or Isle of Capri.
- mentioned the design has progressed to the point that Port KC can/needs to get the financing lined up.
Do you have a link to the grill nation episode?
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Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:40 am
normalthings wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:11 am
Jon Stevens was on Grill Nation again today.
- mentioned Port KC's desire to extend streetcar to the East Bottoms and/or Isle of Capri.
- mentioned the design has progressed to the point that Port KC can/needs to get the financing lined up.
Do you have a link to the grill nation episode?
Trying looking on Apple Podcasts for the episodes that came out around that time. I don’t remember which it was exactly.

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I'm excited for both extensions to the streetcar, it will bring everything closer together. Can't wait to see these happen

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From Port KC mtg today: $10 million BUILD grant for $17 million extension to riverfront being sought by KCATA this year. Burns & MAC leading the report.

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normalthings wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 3:44 pm
From Port KC mtg today: $10 million BUILD grant for $17 million extension to riverfront being sought by KCATA this year. Burns & MAC leading the report.
Any word on if Isle of Capris will kick in any money to extend it to them?
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Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:03 am
normalthings wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 3:44 pm
From Port KC mtg today: $10 million BUILD grant for $17 million extension to riverfront being sought by KCATA this year. Burns & MAC leading the report.
Any word on if Isle of Capris will kick in any money to extend it to them?
It wasn’t mentioned in the meeting.

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normalthings wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:29 am
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:03 am
normalthings wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 3:44 pm
From Port KC mtg today: $10 million BUILD grant for $17 million extension to riverfront being sought by KCATA this year. Burns & MAC leading the report.
Any word on if Isle of Capris will kick in any money to extend it to them?
It wasn’t mentioned in the meeting.
Understandable, Casinos aren’t exactly a hoping business rn so I imagine new owners have their hands full with other things.
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Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 12:05 pm
normalthings wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:29 am
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:03 am


Any word on if Isle of Capris will kick in any money to extend it to them?
It wasn’t mentioned in the meeting.
Understandable, Casinos aren’t exactly a hoping business rn so I imagine new owners have their hands full with other things.
The new owners are on a buying spree.

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normalthings wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:29 am
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:03 am
normalthings wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 3:44 pm
From Port KC mtg today: $10 million BUILD grant for $17 million extension to riverfront being sought by KCATA this year. Burns & MAC leading the report.
Any word on if Isle of Capris will kick in any money to extend it to them?
It wasn’t mentioned in the meeting.
Will the proposals be public?

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Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 12:05 pm
normalthings wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:29 am
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:03 am


Any word on if Isle of Capris will kick in any money to extend it to them?
It wasn’t mentioned in the meeting.
Understandable, Casinos aren’t exactly a hoping business rn so I imagine new owners have their hands full with other things.
They would be insane not to invest in a fixed rail line to their front door. The current situation honestly shouldn't matter to a casino.

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KCPowercat wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 7:46 pm
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 12:05 pm
normalthings wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:29 am

It wasn’t mentioned in the meeting.
Understandable, Casinos aren’t exactly a hoping business rn so I imagine new owners have their hands full with other things.
They would be insane not to invest in a fixed rail line to their front door. The current situation honestly shouldn't matter to a casino.
Looking at the price tag of the BUILD application I’d assume it wasn’t included. I think the Isle of Capri would be a $5-10 million addition.

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normalthings wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 8:30 pm
KCPowercat wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 7:46 pm
They would be insane not to invest in a fixed rail line to their front door. The current situation honestly shouldn't matter to a casino.
Looking at the price tag of the BUILD application I’d assume it wasn’t included. I think the Isle of Capri would be a $5-10 million addition.
That is actually a pretty reasonable price for that length of track, I imagine not having to dig up a roadway helps to lower the cost substantially.
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KC Core Application 2020: 2024 opening

Current proposal terminates west of Union and has a pricetag around ~$20 million. Developer have signed LOIs agreeing to pay $600k+ more per year if streetcar is built.

Report appears to have inconsistencies between sections and between graphics and supporting text.

https://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uplo ... -18-Mo.pdf

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normalthings wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 7:13 am
KC Core Application 2020: 2024 opening

Current proposal terminates west of Union and has a pricetag around ~$20 million. Developer have signed LOIs agreeing to pay $600k+ more per year if streetcar is built.

Report appears to have inconsistencies between sections and between graphics and supporting text.

https://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uplo ... -18-Mo.pdf
Noteworthy:
On the operations side, the proposed source of funding for ongoing operations and maintenance of the streetcar and multi-use trail elements will come from new Condominium Association Assessments and through agreements with private developers. This innovative public-private partnership will apply to new residential units built on Berkley Riverfront whose tenants would receive many of the benefits of fast, frequent, reliable transit service.
The riverfront area was removed from the Main Street extension TDD before the elections at the request of PortKC to make this happen.

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Is that different from previous concepts? I recall the alignment following River Front Road in an off-street alignment.

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Eon Blue wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:12 am
Is that different from previous concepts? I recall the alignment following River Front Road in an off-street alignment.
Yes, base of the bridge to keep the cost down.

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