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Read a string of tweets that broke down what would be needed to build Overland Park Rail. A 10% tax increase for 10 years to build from UMKC to downtown OP. 10% for 20 years would take you from UMKC to 135th & Metcafe.

OP’s current city budget is $300 million per year vs KCK’s $400 million (KCK having fewer people). OP could easily shoulder the cost
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normalthings wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:49 pm Read a string of tweets that broke down what would be needed to build Overland Park Rail. A 10% tax increase for 10 years to build from UMKC to downtown OP. 10% for 20 years would take you from UMKC to 135th & Metcafe.

OP’s current city budget is $300 million per year vs KCK’s $400 million (KCK having fewer people). OP could easily shoulder the cost
What route/ROW would that take? Not going to happen but curious as to what they propose it might look like.
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Think it went west on 75th St to Metcalf.
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DaveKCMO wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:45 pm And so it begins... https://ridekc.org/planning/one-ridekc-plan
doesn't look like the october timeline will be reached
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normalthings wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:56 pm
DaveKCMO wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:45 pm And so it begins... https://ridekc.org/planning/one-ridekc-plan
doesn't look like the october timeline will be reached
Correct. The draft plan is complete, but waiting on some key regional stakeholders.
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Mr. Pro-development looks to have one in OP. Good for transit?
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normalthings wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:18 pm Mr. Pro-development looks to have one in OP. Good for transit?
Probably!
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What does the $677 for Missouri Public Transir and $200 million for Kansas Transit mean?
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normalthings wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:27 pm What does the $677 for Missouri Public Transir and $200 million for Kansas Transit mean?
Was wondering the same thing. We really need the highway removal funds more than anything though.
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AlkaliAxel wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:21 pm
normalthings wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:27 pm What does the $677 for Missouri Public Transir and $200 million for Kansas Transit mean?
Was wondering the same thing. We really need the highway removal funds more than anything though.
No
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normalthings wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:53 pm
AlkaliAxel wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:21 pm
normalthings wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:27 pm What does the $677 for Missouri Public Transir and $200 million for Kansas Transit mean?
Was wondering the same thing. We really need the highway removal funds more than anything though.
No
Highway removal funds = funding for south loop cap. Getting anything else isn’t mutually exclusive, they’re different funds.
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KCQ rides early-20th-century interurban railways to find memories, mayhem and maps


Strang Line Road and Hocker Drive in Johnson County. Remnants of abandoned interurban railbed are scattered about, some of which have been converted to hiking/walking trails such as the Line Creek Trail in Platte County and the Interurban Trail in Riverside. A few old bridges also have survived in the Northland, including one at the Martha-Lafite Thompson Nature Sanctuary in Liberty and another just north of Avondale. Buildings that housed interurban stations also exist, notably in Overland Park, where the former Strang Line depot at 80th Street and Santa Fe housed a home-decorating store for decades before the Overland Park Historical Society took it over in 2019. Downtown Overland Park also is the site of the Strang Line’s old car barn (now a furniture store). Nearby stands a statue of Strang. Riley, the former Strang Line executive, probably wouldn’t recognize the place. He spoke to The Star as a 91-year-old in 1960, describing how the Strang Line was popular with farm youths commuting to their jobs and housewives going shopping, as well as tipplers traveling from the dry state of Kansas to obtain liquid refreshments in Missouri. “Those were wonderful days, but you had to keep going,” he said. “After daylight was no time to sleep.” Just as Riley had been on hand for the beginning and end of the Strang Line, S.E. Peck had witnessed the start and finish of the Kansas City, Leavenworth & Western. He watched one of the final cars roll past his filling station in Bethel the day the line ceased operations in April 1938. “I saw the first one leave,” Peck, 82, told The Star at the time. “It’s like the passing of an old friend to me. When I came here in ’72, there were Indians camped hereabouts, and the thought of a trip to Leavenworth in an hour and a half was as fantastic as the plan for one-day service to Europe now.”

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Seeing that map always makes me sad
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Apparently every system on that map went bankrupt at one point or another.
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Since this was posted in the "Regional Transit Coordination" thread, it's worth noting that these routes were all individual for-profit companies that did not coordinate policies or services. Had they survived into the 60s, they would have probably been absorbed into KCATA or maybe turned into a separate commuter rail authority.
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BRT and Streetcar are elements of the draft One Ride KC plan. MARC and Chamber feedback should be completed Q1. Will need state legislature involvement.

East/West study is a first step on this front. RFP out to study this. I think there is a pathway for rail all the way.
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KCATA proposes Independence Avenue - State Avenue BRT line

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kc ... ll-funding
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DaveKCMO wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:27 pm Since this was posted in the "Regional Transit Coordination" thread, it's worth noting that these routes were all individual for-profit companies that did not coordinate policies or services. Had they survived into the 60s, they would have probably been absorbed into KCATA or maybe turned into a separate commuter rail authority.
Indeed, very valid that there was minimal 'coordination.' I didn't think there was another thread to post it, as it would probably be the last time our region had an interconnected form of transit other than cars or Greyhound. Agreed if they would have survived the ATA would have probably taken over and pared service back. Perhaps we would have seen substantially different development patterns along the old interurban lines.
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normalthings wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:30 pm KCATA proposes Independence Avenue - State Avenue BRT line

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kc ... ll-funding
Exciting route but what am I missing here?
The new route will run from Independence to State Avenue. It will also run through the transit center at 12th and Prospect — an information hub for thousands of riders.
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KCPowercat wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:44 pm
normalthings wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:30 pm KCATA proposes Independence Avenue - State Avenue BRT line

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kc ... ll-funding
Exciting route
It is looking like OneRide boils down to:

NKC Streetcar
East/Wet BRT/Streetcar
State/Inde BRT
Increased Bus Service

Not what I had hoped but better than nothing.
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