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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:22 pm
by alejandro46
flyingember wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:12 am
alejandro46 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:48 pm
The bridge crossing is really what throws the numbers. :(

MODOT has no money to spare, too busy building multi-million dollar highway interchanges.
Yeah, that’s why if it’s not on a new bridge, it should be bundled into a HOA bridge rehabilitation. The bridge is 33 years so it’s probably coming up on one being needed.

Bundling federal highway money, federal transit sources, state money and local money from both cities seems most likely to produce results. Current streetcar expansion is four sources between both sections. The starter line was (off the top of my head) four sources too.

The timing of this effort is very smart if it proceeds, since it could take 1-3 years to fund and finish engineering. Even if it’s just the bridge crossing in a first phase, a stop at 10th Ave would obviously complete the hardest aspect of the project and provides transit benefits by enabling transfers to UMKC from the NKC flex service. Expanding track north on Burlington could be done in the same phase or up to two more phases. Plenty of systems expand on the scale of 10 blocks at a time.
Good point, if regular rehabbing of the bridge is combined with bringing 9 down to grade and adding a streetcar line on top, we have a much better chance of landing state and federal dollars to match KCMO/NKC contributions.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:08 pm
by flyingember
Resolution passed

Goal of ending up with feasibility and a proposal for implementation

https://twitter.com/bryantd23/status/13 ... 56032?s=21

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:36 am
by flyingember
Proving out that the timing of this resolution couldn't have been better, there's now a two year clock to get this to the point it could be federally funded under the most ideal situation in ten years

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:10 pm
by normalthings
Any updates or timeline?

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:07 pm
by DaveKCMO
normalthings wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:10 pm
Any updates or timeline?
Not yet.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:29 pm
by normalthings
Bryant DeLong won mayor of NKC by 4 votes. If it holds up, great news for Streetcar!

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:03 am
by kboish
Wow. Thats a sqeaker. Good for NKC! It is on a really nice trajectory.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:24 am
by Anthony_Hugo98
normalthings wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:29 pm
Bryant DeLong won mayor of NKC by 4 votes. If it holds up, great news for Streetcar!
Haven’t read anything on him, is he very pro transit/streetcar?

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:39 am
by normalthings
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:24 am
normalthings wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:29 pm
Bryant DeLong won mayor of NKC by 4 votes. If it holds up, great news for Streetcar!
Haven’t read anything on him, is he very pro transit/streetcar?
He is the council member who got NKC looking at streetcar again. Streetcar expansion was part of his platform.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:44 am
by KCPowercat
Great news! How can kcmo residents help support them? I'd love a connection to armour

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:23 am
by flyingember
The NKC council has 8 members, half were up for election + the mayor. All 8 in Jan approved the resolution to look into the streetcar. Two won re-election and two are new to the council.

I know one who is new is against the bike lanes on Armour but I don't know about their thoughts on the Streetcar.

If you want to do something-

Write the NKC and KCMO councils
Write the Clay County Commission
Write MODOT
write your congress members
If it goes up for MARC funding, add a comment in support of the project

The goal should be to get people to be aware of interest in the project. It's the first expansion that would cross city and county boundaries. The new Clay Co Commission is dramatically more competent than the last one and we need their support with the state paperwork to use the crossing.

In my opinion, it would be smart to write Clay County as a general transit support letter. There's also a need for more bus service in the northland.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:38 pm
by langosta
flyingember wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:23 am
The NKC council has 8 members, half were up for election + the mayor. All 8 in Jan approved the resolution to look into the streetcar. Two won re-election and two are new to the council.

I know one who is new is against the bike lanes on Armour but I don't know about their thoughts on the Streetcar.

If you want to do something-

Write the NKC and KCMO councils
Write the Clay County Commission
Write MODOT
write your congress members
If it goes up for MARC funding, add a comment in support of the project

The goal should be to get people to be aware of interest in the project. It's the first expansion that would cross city and county boundaries. The new Clay Co Commission is dramatically more competent than the last one and we need their support with the state paperwork to use the crossing.

In my opinion, it would be smart to write Clay County as a general transit support letter. There's also a need for more bus service in the northland.
NKC’s recent development will hopefully boost future TDD revenues. Is there anyway for them to garner additional funding from their lively casino.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:16 pm
by flyingember
langosta wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:38 pm
NKC’s recent development will hopefully boost future TDD revenues. Is there anyway for them to garner additional funding from their lively casino.
The casino asked for a reduction in what they pay the city last year due to reduced revenue.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to North Kansas City

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:46 pm
by DaveKCMO
langosta wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:38 pm
NKC’s recent development will hopefully boost future TDD revenues. Is there anyway for them to garner additional funding from their lively casino.
I don't think that's enough of a boost to pay for a streetcar on their own like we did downtown/midtown. If they build out the way they are planning to, it might be possible in 10 years.