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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:24 pm
by flyingember
normalthings wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:26 pm Looks like the city is looking at purchasing part of the Country Club ROW.

http://cityclerk.kcmo.org/LiveWeb/Docum ... MmvEzLJk2T
Yet another ordinance that needs a map. It looks like it's in Westport and well outside the expansion zone, but it's next to impossible to be certain with the wording used

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:24 pm
by normalthings
flyingember wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:24 pm
normalthings wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:26 pm Looks like the city is looking at purchasing part of the Country Club ROW.

http://cityclerk.kcmo.org/LiveWeb/Docum ... MmvEzLJk2T
Yet another ordinance that needs a map. It looks like it's in Westport and well outside the expansion zone, but it's next to impossible to be certain with the wording used
Sounded like it to me but then it went into the streetcar expansion.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:33 pm
by Chris Stritzel
I think the new STL Central West End MetroLink station canopy design would be a good example to follow for the Plaza Streetcar stop. Surely the Plaza stop will become the busiest on the network. I'm just throwing an idea out there since I don't know what the plans have in store for station design. Placing multiple smaller canopies, like what exist now, seems weird to me. Maybe extend to cover a good chunk of the platform area but keep the same design as existing canopies.

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:26 am
by Anthony_Hugo98
How close are they to beginning any work on the expansion? Is there a timeline on it or are they waiting for this years rounds of possible federal funding?

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:18 am
by earthling
IIRC, running about 5 years after funding is locked down, plus/minus a year.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:25 am
by KCPowercat
From what I remember the progress is on track and doing engineering part and if we get the next round of funding everything is on track construction wise?

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:16 pm
by normalthings
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:26 am How close are they to beginning any work on the expansion? Is there a timeline on it or are they waiting for this years rounds of possible federal funding?
The streetcar authority is currently in the process of selecting a construction manager to build the extension. Bids are due in January.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:02 pm
by DaveKCMO
Federal funding must come in 2021 to keep a 2024/25 opening date.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:48 am
by normalthings
DaveKCMO wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:02 pm Federal funding must come in 2021 to keep a 2024/25 opening date.
Is it possible to get that funding in 2020?

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:21 am
by DaveKCMO
normalthings wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:48 am
DaveKCMO wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:02 pm Federal funding must come in 2021 to keep a 2024/25 opening date.
Is it possible to get that funding in 2020?
Possible, but not likely.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:15 am
by langosta
Chris Stritzel wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:33 pm I think the new STL Central West End MetroLink station canopy design would be a good example to follow for the Plaza Streetcar stop. Surely the Plaza stop will become the busiest on the network. I'm just throwing an idea out there since I don't know what the plans have in store for station design. Placing multiple smaller canopies, like what exist now, seems weird to me. Maybe extend to cover a good chunk of the platform area but keep the same design as existing canopies.

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This could work on the riverfront extension.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:50 pm
by flyingember
The extension track is marked in the parcel viewer if you haven't looked in a while

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:36 pm
by JLowe2018
flyingember wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:50 pm The extension track is marked in the parcel viewer if you haven't looked in a while
I looked on the Kansas City Parcel Viewer and could not find what you're referring to. Where is this on there or are you referring to something else?

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:38 pm
by normalthings
JLowe2018 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:36 pm
flyingember wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:50 pm The extension track is marked in the parcel viewer if you haven't looked in a while
I looked on the Kansas City Parcel Viewer and could not find what you're referring to. Where is this on there or are you referring to something else?
Zoom into Main Street next to Union Station. You should see solid lines (current streetcar) transitioning to dotted lines (extension).

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:58 pm
by JLowe2018
normalthings wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:38 pm
JLowe2018 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:36 pm
flyingember wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:50 pm The extension track is marked in the parcel viewer if you haven't looked in a while
I looked on the Kansas City Parcel Viewer and could not find what you're referring to. Where is this on there or are you referring to something else?
Zoom into Main Street next to Union Station. You should see solid lines (current streetcar) transitioning to dotted lines (extension).
My bad, I had the satellite layer on! :lol:

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:12 pm
by grovester
JLowe2018 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:58 pm
normalthings wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:38 pm
JLowe2018 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:36 pm

I looked on the Kansas City Parcel Viewer and could not find what you're referring to. Where is this on there or are you referring to something else?
Zoom into Main Street next to Union Station. You should see solid lines (current streetcar) transitioning to dotted lines (extension).
My bad, I had the satellite layer on! :lol:
It's not built yet.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:28 pm
by DaveKCMO
flyingember wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:50 pm The extension track is marked in the parcel viewer if you haven't looked in a while
Thanks for letting us know! Very cool.

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:28 am
by earthling
Could take as long as 12-18 months to find out about Fed funding for UMKC extension, then several more years before operating. Hopefully free fare bus can be maintained during this period.

https://cityscenekc.com/new-streetcar-a ... -on-track/

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:14 pm
by Steve52
What in the hell is this supposed to mean? Image

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:29 pm
by smh
It means the denser parts of the city have a much higher taxable value per acre than the less dense areas.