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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
The current switch at Union Station will be replaced with a new one in the Pershing intersection. That US switch is a piece of crap that can hobble the entire system when it fails. Value engineering!
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Curious: Will these be bidirectional (crisscross) switches or one direction like the one at US is now?
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
One direction per the drawings. Criss Cross is likely too pricey for the limited value that it provides.beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:43 pmCurious: Will these be bidirectional (crisscross) switches or one direction like the one at US is now?
Maybe it would have happened if it was a center running system.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
the one direction can do the job though given the streetcar can go either direction.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Just seems it would be faster than passing the change, turning around and “backing” into the turn. Also, would a crisscross switch better allow for an easier turn if we get an E-W extension (however unlikely) in the future? Thinking mostly about 39th St.KCPowercat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:20 pm the one direction can do the job though given the streetcar can go either direction.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
I would imagine that a 39th street line would turn around at the KU Med Center terminus and not main street.beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:26 pmJust seems it would be faster than passing the change, turning around and “backing” into the turn. Also, would a crisscross switch better allow for an easier turn if we get an E-W extension (however unlikely) in the future? Thinking mostly about 39th St.KCPowercat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:20 pm the one direction can do the job though given the streetcar can go either direction.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
39th line would go back and forth, but you have to get cars to switch between the two, if only to get maintenance at the yard or for demand adjustments, a crisscross could have an integrated turn.normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:05 am I would imagine that a 39th street line would turn around at the KU Med Center terminus and not main street.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Below is the typical solution to that problem.beautyfromashes wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:13 am39th line would go back and forth, but you have to get cars to switch between the two, if only to get maintenance at the yard or for demand adjustments, a crisscross could have an integrated turn.normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:05 am I would imagine that a 39th street line would turn around at the KU Med Center terminus and not main street.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
That model is of course like what Chicago has for the loop on the NW corner.
If the transfers are only when going back to the barn can do the same thing and add crossovers that allow trains to change direction on the same line.
You just need two turns and three crossovers for full movement to/from every direction, all ten options are served
If the transfers are only when going back to the barn can do the same thing and add crossovers that allow trains to change direction on the same line.
You just need two turns and three crossovers for full movement to/from every direction, all ten options are served
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
The appeal is still going. Last week the KCATA requested oral arguments be rescheduled, it was supposed to be heard next week.flyingember wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:17 pmLong followup.
There's no judgement information but she filed an appeal in Jan 2019. So she clearly lost.
The appeal is case WD82459
At this point KCATA has an extention for their filing until July
So the original petition was filed against her in Jan 2017 and the case is still working it's way through the courts 2.5 years later.
The case was originally filed Jan 24, 2017. So we're at two years 10 months into this lawsuit.
To put that in perspective the downtown line had its official groundbreaking May 22, 2014 and it opened for business May 6, 2016.
We should all thank the KCATA for putting so much money into lawyers to maintain the integrity of the trail for the future.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
I think we should name one of the new stops after her.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Sidenote: Someone on the Nextdoor app mentioned that DeJanes was hosting a meeting to give advice on the recent property tax increases and how to pay under duress. I responded that I couldn't believe she was still getting press (she was also interviewed on KSHB) after she had illegally expanded her property onto city property and basically claimed squatter's rights when contacted by the city. People said they didn't care because she did pro bono work for neighbors or that one bad deed doesn't make someone 'bad' or that I needed to 'move on' and it wasn't like she robbed a bank.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Saw that too. She is stealing from the taxpayers with her land grab and frivolous lawsuits.kcjak wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:39 am Sidenote: Someone on the Nextdoor app mentioned that DeJanes was hosting a meeting to give advice on the recent property tax increases and how to pay under duress. I responded that I couldn't believe she was still getting press (she was also interviewed on KSHB) after she had illegally expanded her property onto city property and basically claimed squatter's rights when contacted by the city. People said they didn't care because she did pro bono work for neighbors or that one bad deed doesn't make someone 'bad' or that I needed to 'move on' and it wasn't like she robbed a bank.
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
This is just egregious...
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Also, adverse possession isn't possible against public property...
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
And now she's probably giving advice on how to NOT be taxed on the additional land she took over
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Did you just watch Robin Hood Men in Tights?alejandro46 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:11 pmPerhaps when the ATA wins court costs from her, they can set aside some of that funding for public restrooms and name them after her.
"From this day forth, all toilets in this kingdom shall be known as 'Johns'!"
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC
Looks like the city is looking at purchasing part of the Country Club ROW.
http://cityclerk.kcmo.org/LiveWeb/Docum ... MmvEzLJk2T
http://cityclerk.kcmo.org/LiveWeb/Docum ... MmvEzLJk2T