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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:07 pm
by KCPowercat
I don't even want to know their reasons for voting no. I mean I do but I don't.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:54 pm
by DaveKCMO
beautyfromashes wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:33 pm
I’ve been noticing what seems to be crews taking core samples on Main in Midtown. Related to planning for streetcar or some other non related project?
We are doing environmental right now.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:48 pm
by normalthings
DaveKCMO wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:57 pm
DaveKCMO wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:40 pm
DaveKCMO wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:37 pm


Three committee members were absent for the vote: Fowler, Shields, and Lucas.
The streetcar financing ordinance is on this afternoon's council agenda: http://cityclerk.kcmo.org/liveweb/Meeti ... wIfd9ibUHj
Full council passed. Hall and Loar voted no. Lucas not present. All others voted yes.
He was not present at the Airport and Streetcar votes.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:03 am
by KCPowercat
Being physically present to vote is so dumb in government.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:44 am
by mean
I agree, but I can't imagine they'll voluntarily change it so that they are forced to have a record that can be used against them.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:22 am
by flyingember
KCPowercat wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:03 am
Being physically present to vote is so dumb in government.
I wouldn't want someone to get voted onto the council and then effectively move away. Ex, they keep a home in Virginia and have a token address in KC.

I can see allowing proxy voting where your proxy must show up and you must not have been out of town longer than X number of weeks

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:13 pm
by Anthony_Hugo98
Has there been anything released on when the environmental will be complete?

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:59 pm
by DaveKCMO
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:13 pm
Has there been anything released on when the environmental will be complete?
http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploa ... .16.19.pdf

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:06 am
by Anthony_Hugo98
DaveKCMO wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:59 pm
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:13 pm
Has there been anything released on when the environmental will be complete?
http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploa ... .16.19.pdf
Thanks for the link Dave! With the expanded VMF, would they do the northern expansion with the current building and tie the entire facility together? Or would it be an expansion east across Holmes near that brick building housing maximus signs?

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:21 pm
by flyingember
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:06 am
DaveKCMO wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:59 pm
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:13 pm
Has there been anything released on when the environmental will be complete?
http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploa ... .16.19.pdf
Thanks for the link Dave! With the expanded VMF, would they do the northern expansion with the current building and tie the entire facility together? Or would it be an expansion east across Holmes near that brick building housing maximus signs?
To save someone the time of searching, he's referring to around file page 153. There's mockups of adding storage track and using the existing building for up to 15 trains (though the drawing looks to have 16) and one with an expanded building.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:54 pm
by Anthony_Hugo98
flyingember wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:21 pm
To save someone the time of searching, he's referring to around file page 153. There's mockups of adding storage track and using the existing building for up to 15 trains (though the drawing looks to have 16) and one with an expanded building.
I shouldve been clearer, but yes those are the mock ups to which i was referring, thank you!

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:07 pm
by Anthony_Hugo98
What’s the timeline on submission for the Fed grant ? I remember reading somewhere that it was August, but I wasn’t sure if it was going to be the end of the month or not.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:11 am
by flyingember
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:07 pm
What’s the timeline on submission for the Fed grant ? I remember reading somewhere that it was August, but I wasn’t sure if it was going to be the end of the month or not.
They're not submitting for a single grant.

For example, this one is money locals split up while Tiger and the like are money DC employees split up. We got from both sources for the starter line.

https://marc2.org/tr_rtp/browseprojects.aspx
Click the little arrows to view the projects

This site has public comments so if you see a project you support, fill out the form. You'll see many people it's two lines so if you don't big road projects will get the money since they make up the majority of submissions. Expand sections you might not otherwise, there's multiple groups supporting projects in the same location.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:12 am
by normalthings
111 comments for adding a lane to an interstate. 8 comments for the long term (Core Wide) streetcar expansion.

Can we get Dave, Tom G, etc to share this on Twitter?

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:12 am
by MidtownCat
I haven’t following for like the last 100 pages, but when are we supposed to get the trolley to go from Union Station to the Plaza? Assuming some time after 2030.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:05 am
by flyingember
MidtownCat wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:12 am
I haven’t following for like the last 100 pages, but when are we supposed to get the trolley to go from Union Station to the Plaza? Assuming some time after 2030.
flyingember wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:57 am
johnmatrix wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:52 am
Will it be done by the time the NFL draft is held here in 2023?
The starter line opened 3.5 years after being fully funded, and that was super fast as far as major projects go.

So if 2021 is the target for funding, late 2024 would be the earliest, possibly into 2025.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:06 am
by langosta
New Plaza Transit Center
Image

39th and Main Station
Image

If the Streetcar Authority receives its federal funding by early 2021, the project will be on track to be completed and running by late 2024.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:26 am
by moderne
Their map is once again showing the station at Linwood instead of 31st. Have they changed their mind again?

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:28 am
by flyingember
I like the Plaza center stop, but why can't the awnings be the entire length of the stop?

There's 16 seats total at what is going to be a major stop.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:39 am
by earthling
^Agree about full length awning. And nice to see a dedicated bus lane as well, making it essentially a small transit center.