Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by smh » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:29 am

kcjak wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:13 am
flyingember wrote:
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shinatoo wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:15 am


At the Plaza stop, both lanes of the streetcar and the dedicated bus lanes will be on the east side of Main in a transit plaza. It shows that in the rendering if you take another look.

My question is where will the UMKC stop be? Does it move to the Wiggings trail, in the old ROW, at that point?
This document on the website has the entire corridor alignment on it
http://kcstreetcar.org/wp-content/uploa ... gnment.pdf

Can even see an extension of the trail on it.
What's going on with the trail crossing the street at Westport Rd?
Switchover track, likely for use in emergencies/significant track blockages.

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by flyingember » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:47 am

kcjak wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:13 am

What's going on with the trail crossing the street at Westport Rd?
That's crossover track. The legend tells you what color is used for what.

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by earthling » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:20 pm

BizJournal update on progress and next steps with fed funding...
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... phase.html

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by shinatoo » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:51 pm

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by shinatoo » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:52 pm

KCDowntown wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:48 am
There's a video of the streetcar running from Union Station south to UMKC on the KCStreetcar Main St Extension page as well...

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by KCPowercat » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:57 pm

Come on guys use the legend!

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by Midtownkid » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:30 pm

flyingember wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:39 pm
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That stop should have a Spanish look. Red Tile Roof. Smooth concrete archways holding it up. Think LA Union Station.
Why? It's not on the Plaza and there's multiple buildings equally far away without a Spanish look.
Because it would be fucking cool! and if done right, beautiful. The Plaza has a sense of place. I wish we could build upon and expand that.

It could be done in a way that incorporates the branding. That station would just have a greater architectural feature. It would also provide better shelter. Anyway, I know it will not be done. Just think it would make for a really cool station.

Something like a miniature version of this:

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by beautyfromashes » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:24 pm

It’d be overrun with homeless people. I’d also like to see them eliminate the center of traffic medians. Giving access to driver side windows encourages panhandling.

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by normalthings » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:37 pm

Project Managment Agreement for the Main Street Extension passed 10-0.

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by DaveKCMO » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:39 pm

normalthings wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:37 pm
Project Managment Agreement for the Main Street Extension passed 10-0.
Now we start engineering, and hopefully the administration will name the project for a grant since it has met all requirements.

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by grecobs » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:56 am

@dave is there a timeline on when the government will yay/nay the grant?

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by flyingember » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:02 am

grecobs wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:56 am
@dave is there a timeline on when the government will yay/nay the grant?
See this post from him

https://kcrag.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1 ... 20#p594222

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by DaveKCMO » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:02 pm

There are no guarantees from this administration, but the project schedule anticipates a grant in 2021. We may have a different administration then!

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by normalthings » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:19 am

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High costs (20-30%) are due to the big allocated and unallocated contingencies.
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Is the spike in cost/hour due to the purchase of new cars?
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by earthling » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:02 am

So it looks like they plan to run 7-8 at peak for 10-12 minute headways. Ideally they can run same on weekends as well at some point. If free bus occurs, at least there will be other options to get between Plaza/downtown, effectively increasing net headways.

And 2024 seems optimistic.

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by normalthings » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:45 pm

earthling wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:02 am
So it looks like they plan to run 7-8 at peak for 10-12 minute headways. Ideally they can run same on weekends as well at some point. If free bus occurs, at least there will be other options to get between Plaza/downtown, effectively increasing net headways.

And 2024 seems optimistic.

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I wonder if we could see a downtown circulator service during special event days or the like.

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by shinatoo » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:02 pm

normalthings wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:45 pm
earthling wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:02 am
So it looks like they plan to run 7-8 at peak for 10-12 minute headways. Ideally they can run same on weekends as well at some point. If free bus occurs, at least there will be other options to get between Plaza/downtown, effectively increasing net headways.

And 2024 seems optimistic.

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I wonder if we could see a downtown circulator service during special event days or the like.
That's a good idea, assuming they leave the Union Station switch in place. They would have to add a new switch at the northbound junction, I assume???
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by normalthings » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:26 pm

shinatoo wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:02 pm
normalthings wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:45 pm
earthling wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:02 am
So it looks like they plan to run 7-8 at peak for 10-12 minute headways. Ideally they can run same on weekends as well at some point. If free bus occurs, at least there will be other options to get between Plaza/downtown, effectively increasing net headways.

And 2024 seems optimistic.

Image
I wonder if we could see a downtown circulator service during special event days or the like.
That's a good idea, assuming they leave the Union Station switch in place. They would have to add a new switch at the northbound junction, I assume???
US switch is being replaced by one in the Pershing intersection

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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Post by KCPowercat » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:07 pm

There is going to be a switch at US/Pershing, 39th, and southern terminus based on the design docs.

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