Bike Lanes

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by DaveKCMO » Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:51 pm

earthling wrote:
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^And statistically speaking you have a higher chance of being crushed to death on a road that has a dozen bus lines vs Walnut that has maybe 1 line and fewer cars. :)

You ride the bus too and know there are some drivers who behave like they've got the bigger vehicle so expect everyone else to be defensive as they don't have to be.
Where is this crash data you speak of?

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by earthling » Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:56 pm

I'm speaking statistical chances of course, based on known bus activity.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by mean » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:39 pm

Speaking statistical chances but not citing statistics, more formally known as making stuff up? :P

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by earthling » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:54 am

Very specific. Am talking probability. 12-13 bus lines go down Grand vs 1 bus line that goes down Walnut. Which would you choose. Astoundingly poor choice to choose a bike path for the road that has the most bus lines. How is this even debatable. Suspect if planners even considered bus traffic, a major issue for cyclists.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by flyingember » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:02 am

No, it’s not a poor choice.

There’s 12-13 bus lines worth of riders who need a method to get from the bus to their final destination. The system should cut stops to speed up service. We should expect some people to get off the bus and ride to their destination. The bus can’t carry enough bikes so moving towards a system where the bus pass covers a rental ebike for the last few blocks would be smarter than trying to provide bus service to all of downtown.

The next stage should be adding connecting lanes into Grand and put lanes on a perpindicular street

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by shinatoo » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:45 am

flyingember wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:02 am
No, it’s not a poor choice.

There’s 12-13 bus lines worth of riders who need a method to get from the bus to their final destination. The system should cut stops to speed up service. We should expect some people to get off the bus and ride to their destination. The bus can’t carry enough bikes so moving towards a system where the bus pass covers a rental ebike for the last few blocks would be smarter than trying to provide bus service to all of downtown.

The next stage should be adding connecting lanes into Grand and put lanes on a perpindicular street
Have you ever ridden a city bus? I'm guessing 20% of the people i see on the bus couldn't ride a bike because of some type of disability.

Any good transit system needs a mix of options. Local with many stops and express with fewer (MAX and Streecar). Walnut AND Grand should be bike friendly.
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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by flyingember » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:10 am

So 80% could bike.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by shinatoo » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:39 am

Yes. You are demonstrating excellent math and reading skills.
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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by mean » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:12 am

I would probably prefer to share the road with professional and definitely insured bus drivers than random citizens who may or may not be drunk, insured, high, texting, etc.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by taxi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:35 am

mean wrote:
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I would probably prefer to share the road with professional and definitely insured bus drivers than random citizens who may or may not be drunk, insured, high, texting, etc.
Have you ever been to NYC?

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by mean » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:49 am

Yes, although I've never ridden a bike there.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by taxi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:28 pm

The bus drivers are crazy.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by earthling » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:45 pm

Am in NYC at the moment. My younger brother uses Citi Bike daily (annual pass holder) and at times hits one of the top 10 ridership in all of NY - and has had bike/vehicle accidents. He also agreed that putting a bike lane on a road with 12+ bus lines is ridiculous unless entirely protected, which Grand isn't. Is rather amusing to hear some here defend it.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by grovester » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:19 pm

That settles it then!

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by earthling » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:30 pm

/boozeinducedselfrighteousdickmodegivenitsjustabadidea :)

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by town cow » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:22 am

Bike lanes or not, I stay off of Grand if possible.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by Riverite » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:44 am

I always preferred Wyandotte personally

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by DaveKCMO » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:00 am

The good news is you can bike on ALL of the streets. It's your choice!

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by taxi » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:40 am

2 wheels good, 4 wheels baaaaaaad.

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Re: Bike Lanes

Post by grovester » Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:36 pm

DaveKCMO wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:09 pm
New bike lanes on Armour Road in North Kansas City:

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Someone please tell me they are not actually going to tear this out.

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