I’m simply offering a different perspective than has been mentioned on here. You know, context. I’m not discounting what he said or saying it’s even ok, but for so many men to act outraged and shocked he said it is disingenuous at the very least. I’ve heard comments like, “man I’d do (insert perverted action) to her” which in the moment, doesn’t always come across as alarming because we typically know it’s not literal. If that person follows through on that comment against her will, he’s a sexual predator and overall pile of shit. If it were ever proven that Trump has sexually assaulted someone, I’d support him going to prison and ripping his name off of all his buildings.phuqueue wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:45 amSo we're agreed, you actually have nothing to add to the conversation.DColeKC wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:31 pmIf you're only going to discount my input and reply with a "why even reply", you don't really have to mash that reply button. I guess I could have been lazy and quoted someone else's response with, "I AGREE!!!!!"
For fucks sake.
Not sure what you think the rest of your post is doing here if you're "not making excuses" for Trump. What are you doing, then?DColeKC wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:46 pmI'm not making excuses for what he said. I'm offering up the idea that things like that are often said amongst men and I'd be very impressed if you two haven't said anything that could be perceived as inappropriate about the opposite sex. From what I've seen of you on here, if you had billions and power, you'd be completely out of control. Saying you could grab pussies would likely be the least of your errors.mean wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:13 pm
How is this not literally the definition of apologism? I pointed out a horrible thing the dude said and you are furiously doing the "it's not that bad" dance. Democrats disqualified Howard Dean for making an enthusiastic squeal in 2004, and Trump talks flippantly about sexual assault--whether he did it or not--and it is forgiven, mostly by people who are supposedly the moral ones? To quote Joe Biden, "Come on!" It's gross.
grovester beat me, but same idea
Look at the tiny amount of power you have over this forum and how you utilize that.
There is a difference between something "that could be perceived as inappropriate" and bragging about sexual assault. In my life as a man, which has included plenty of time in the fabled locker room, I have heard (and yes, regrettably, said) a lot of the former, but never the latter. If it is your genuine belief that this is common, it isn't because men generally boast about assaulting women, it is because you surround yourself with bad men and/or are a bad man yourself. Arguing that others in this thread are just as bad is presumptuous and unfounded.
It's also irrelevant. Nobody in this thread is or is running for president. We don't need to hold random strangers to the same standard that we should be holding the head of state (although we should be holding everybody to at least a basic standard of "don't rape people"), and maybe more importantly, we should definitely be holding the head of state to a much higher standard than we hold random strangers.
I can agree that people who have billions and power are completely out of control, though. That's why nobody should have billions or power.
Of course the POTUS should be on the moral high ground but come on, almost none of them are. JFK was a womanizer and cheated on his wife, he’s a hero. Clinton got a sloppy BJ in the most historical office in the world, he’s a hero. Bush used to snort the ole white girl, no one cares.
As for your comment there should be no billionaires. That’s one of the dumbest arguments liberals make.