I could admittedly be confusing you with someone else, but I'm pretty sure I remember you already acknowledging that you were a white guy in some earlier post. In any case, the old "you don't even know me, don't go making assumptions about me" shtick falls a little flat if it is not accompanied by a revelation that the assumption was actually incorrect.DColeKC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:21 pmFirst of all, you know what race I am? I don't remember ever mentioning my race but I'm guessing because I'm not a flat out Biden supporter or Democrat, I can only be a white male correct?phuqueue wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:54 pmYou "can't imagine it being all that bad for anyone," but something like 90% of black people clearly imagined that Trump was worse for them in 2016, and a similar proportion are currently polling in favor of Biden. Maybe you ought to just admit that they might know something about their own circumstances that you don't? That Biden and Harris are terrible is true but not the point. These are the options that our broken-by-design system have puked up for us. Biden and Harris don't have to be good, they just have to be better than the alternative. And if you don't understand why other people who have had lived experiences vastly different from yours might see them as being better than Trump, you could consider that that might say more about you than it does about them. Or do you wanna just keep trying to crack this nut with all the vast accumulated expertise that your however many years on this planet as a white guy have afforded you?
The Republican platform is geared specifically toward hurting black people, and that's not me saying that, it's Reagan and Bush 1 campaign strategist Lee Atwater (slur redaction mine, of course):You're kind of making my point. 90% of the black population who vote have voted democrat for almost 60 years. I don't think they know what's best for them despite a growing number of young black republicans who are spreading the message that there is in fact, another option. The democrats have had the black vote in their pocket for decades and have mainly only delivered failed promises, mass incarceration and a major welfare state. Not to mention helped facilitate the epidemic known as fatherless homes amongst the black community. The black community is so indoctrinated to vote democrat, that anytime a black person is openly conservative, they're called Uncle Tom's. Similar to how an openly gay republican is looked down upon by people in their own community.
Black Americans don't know what the other side has to offer.
You start out in 1954 by saying, "N*****, n*****, n*****". By 1968 you can't say "n*****"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this", is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "N*****, n*****". So, any way you look at it, race is coming on the back-burner. (quote starts around 16:30 in the interview audio)
So when 90% of them look at Republicans and say "uh, no thanks," I'm pretty sure they know exactly what that side has to offer.
This is basically just confirmation bias. You have no real basis for assuming that the ~10% of black people who are Republicans know better than the ~90% who aren't what is "harming" the community, it just happens that the 10% more closely align with your own beliefs.There's much to unpack but a few quick hitters I've read about young black conservatives and what they like about the republican party.
Equality of Opportunity (Not equality of outcome)
Learning that the democratic party has used a narrative of systemic, structural and institutional racism for power and votes.
“The sociological truths are that America, while still flawed in its race relations … is now the least racist white-majority society in the world; has a better record of legal protection of minorities than any other society, white or black; offers more opportunities to a greater number of black persons than any other society, including all those of Africa."
Is it hard to imagine that some black americans feel democratic policies have harmed their community the most? That doesn't make them "anti-black". Good on them for challenging what they've been told they're supposed to believe. I think more black republicans is a perfect way to actually get things done for that community.
Anyway, the supposed dichotomy between "equality of opportunity" and "equality of outcome" is a myth. These are the same thing. One generation's outcome becomes the next generation's opportunity. This is not only common sense (explaining, for instance, why people want to live in good school districts), it has also been born out empirically by any number of studies.