grovester wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:55 pm
Janet Yellen is unimpressed with your anecdotes.
"For instance, she noted the bulk of job creation took place in the leisure and hospitality industry, which accounted for some 331,000 workers last month. But Yellen suggested that if sweetened jobless aid were to blame for the lack of job growth, the leisure and hospitality sector – where wages are typically low, and the relative financial benefit to collecting unemployment benefits high – would not have seen its payroll expand so vigorously."
Simple explanation. While the numbers in the hospitality and leisure job category added the most types of jobs, Janet is obviously out of touch with that sector, or the real world.
She has no idea about the real wages considering how tips are handled.
I was waiting for someone to use the word “anecdotal”. Like someone sitting in DC. They never get down in the trenches somehow know everything.
Ooh very simple indeed, your personal experiences are obviously more important. Where did you study economics again?
Such a bitch. Learn how to disagree would you. My degree is harder to get and more useful than an economics degree. I'm sick of listening to politicians say the reason we have the most available jobs ever in this countries history and can't fill them is because of child care and people being scared to work because of the covid. They won't admit that much of this nations people are lazy bastards who would much rather suck off the governments tits than work for it. It's why some of those people will work their entire lives in low paying jobs. They also don't want to admit it because many of them supported the extra unemployment extension despite some experts saying it would lead to worker shortages. And do we think people who are polled are going to admit they'd rather sit at home and collect unemployment, even if they could make slightly more working?
Saw on the news that the PNL districts has over 100 openings they can't fill at the moment, but sure, it's because people are afraid of getting covid at work.
I do like how some companies are being forced into raising wages, I think continue to see that some industries can actually afford to pay $15/hr and not have a major negative impact that's passed onto the consumer. Grocery and Fast Food specifically.
Simple explanation. While the numbers in the hospitality and leisure job category added the most types of jobs, Janet is obviously out of touch with that sector, or the real world.
She has no idea about the real wages considering how tips are handled.
I was waiting for someone to use the word “anecdotal”. Like someone sitting in DC. They never get down in the trenches somehow know everything.
Ooh very simple indeed, your personal experiences are obviously more important. Where did you study economics again?
Such a bitch. Learn how to disagree would you. My degree is harder to get and more useful than an economics degree. I'm sick of listening to politicians say the reason we have the most available jobs ever in this countries history and can't fill them is because of child care and people being scared to work because of the covid. They won't admit that much of this nations people are lazy bastards who would much rather suck off the governments tits than work for it. It's why some of those people will work their entire lives in low paying jobs. They also don't want to admit it because many of them supported the extra unemployment extension despite some experts saying it would lead to worker shortages. And do we think people who are polled are going to admit they'd rather sit at home and collect unemployment, even if they could make slightly more working?
Saw on the news that the PNL districts has over 100 openings they can't fill at the moment, but sure, it's because people are afraid of getting covid at work.
I do like how some companies are being forced into raising wages, I think continue to see that some industries can actually afford to pay $15/hr and not have a major negative impact that's passed onto the consumer. Grocery and Fast Food specifically.
Wow you really showed me! Your nameless degree is definitely better than someone who studied economics and became the Secretary of Treasury. It’s such a worthless degree they only make double the annual average. Obviously your illustrious experiences could never be touched by all of the academic research in the world.
No one could possibly be wary of getting sick in a country with some of the highest medical costs in the world in the middle of a pandemic.
DColeKC wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 10:47 am
Saw on the news that the PNL districts has over 100 openings they can't fill at the moment, but sure, it's because people are afraid of getting covid at work.
Ooh very simple indeed, your personal experiences are obviously more important. Where did you study economics again?
Such a bitch. Learn how to disagree would you. My degree is harder to get and more useful than an economics degree. I'm sick of listening to politicians say the reason we have the most available jobs ever in this countries history and can't fill them is because of child care and people being scared to work because of the covid. They won't admit that much of this nations people are lazy bastards who would much rather suck off the governments tits than work for it. It's why some of those people will work their entire lives in low paying jobs. They also don't want to admit it because many of them supported the extra unemployment extension despite some experts saying it would lead to worker shortages. And do we think people who are polled are going to admit they'd rather sit at home and collect unemployment, even if they could make slightly more working?
Saw on the news that the PNL districts has over 100 openings they can't fill at the moment, but sure, it's because people are afraid of getting covid at work.
I do like how some companies are being forced into raising wages, I think continue to see that some industries can actually afford to pay $15/hr and not have a major negative impact that's passed onto the consumer. Grocery and Fast Food specifically.
Wow you really showed me! Your nameless degree is definitely better than someone who studied economics and became the Secretary of Treasury. It’s such a worthless degree they only make double the annual average. Obviously your illustrious experiences could never be touched by all of the academic research in the world.
No one could possibly be wary of getting sick in a country with some of the highest medical costs in the world in the middle of a pandemic.
I like how we can’t offer up what we see in the real world and have our own opinions now without a degree in the topic. I clearly said, “that’s just my own experience” with my original comment. I didn’t imply I know more than her. Janet makes $220,000 a year, I’m doing better then her at half her age. But people don’t worship me like you do her, so she has that going for her.
At this point, everyone has access to a free vaccine. Afraid to get Covid isn’t an excuse.
EDIT: I'm sure Janet has far more money and wealth than I do, so you can skip past that part.
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DColeKC wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 10:47 am
Saw on the news that the PNL districts has over 100 openings they can't fill at the moment, but sure, it's because people are afraid of getting covid at work.
Actually, they are afraid of getting STDs.
Hilarious. The old everyone in the service industry has STD's stereotype. Don't let the fact that you're having a flair up anger you.
Ooh very simple indeed, your personal experiences are obviously more important. Where did you study economics again?
Such a bitch. Learn how to disagree would you. My degree is harder to get and more useful than an economics degree. I'm sick of listening to politicians say the reason we have the most available jobs ever in this countries history and can't fill them is because of child care and people being scared to work because of the covid. They won't admit that much of this nations people are lazy bastards who would much rather suck off the governments tits than work for it. It's why some of those people will work their entire lives in low paying jobs. They also don't want to admit it because many of them supported the extra unemployment extension despite some experts saying it would lead to worker shortages. And do we think people who are polled are going to admit they'd rather sit at home and collect unemployment, even if they could make slightly more working?
Saw on the news that the PNL districts has over 100 openings they can't fill at the moment, but sure, it's because people are afraid of getting covid at work.
I do like how some companies are being forced into raising wages, I think continue to see that some industries can actually afford to pay $15/hr and not have a major negative impact that's passed onto the consumer. Grocery and Fast Food specifically.
Wow you really showed me! Your nameless degree is definitely better than someone who studied economics and became the Secretary of Treasury. It’s such a worthless degree they only make double the annual average. Obviously your illustrious experiences could never be touched by all of the academic research in the world.
No one could possibly be wary of getting sick in a country with some of the highest medical costs in the world in the middle of a pandemic.
I believe DColeKC studied under Dr. Dunning and Professor Kruger
Such a bitch. Learn how to disagree would you. My degree is harder to get and more useful than an economics degree. I'm sick of listening to politicians say the reason we have the most available jobs ever in this countries history and can't fill them is because of child care and people being scared to work because of the covid. They won't admit that much of this nations people are lazy bastards who would much rather suck off the governments tits than work for it. It's why some of those people will work their entire lives in low paying jobs. They also don't want to admit it because many of them supported the extra unemployment extension despite some experts saying it would lead to worker shortages. And do we think people who are polled are going to admit they'd rather sit at home and collect unemployment, even if they could make slightly more working?
Saw on the news that the PNL districts has over 100 openings they can't fill at the moment, but sure, it's because people are afraid of getting covid at work.
I do like how some companies are being forced into raising wages, I think continue to see that some industries can actually afford to pay $15/hr and not have a major negative impact that's passed onto the consumer. Grocery and Fast Food specifically.
Wow you really showed me! Your nameless degree is definitely better than someone who studied economics and became the Secretary of Treasury. It’s such a worthless degree they only make double the annual average. Obviously your illustrious experiences could never be touched by all of the academic research in the world.
No one could possibly be wary of getting sick in a country with some of the highest medical costs in the world in the middle of a pandemic.
I believe DColeKC studied under Dr. Dunning and Professor Kruger
Nah, I'm not pretending to be an economist or know more than one. I just love how a few of you are so quick to bash any opinion that disagrees with yours and quickly jump on the intelligence bashing. Do you honestly think that the high unemployment benefits aren't keeping people from working? I don't know if it's 50% or even 10%, but those who lean left and all liberal politicians seem to claim it has no impact. I just don't buy it. Even if that means I disagree with someone a thousand times more qualified on the topic.
I think a few of you studied under Dr. Van Yperen and Professor Buunk.
Wow you really showed me! Your nameless degree is definitely better than someone who studied economics and became the Secretary of Treasury. It’s such a worthless degree they only make double the annual average. Obviously your illustrious experiences could never be touched by all of the academic research in the world.
No one could possibly be wary of getting sick in a country with some of the highest medical costs in the world in the middle of a pandemic.
I believe DColeKC studied under Dr. Dunning and Professor Kruger
Nah, I'm not pretending to be an economist or know more than one. I just love how a few of you are so quick to bash any opinion that disagrees with yours and quickly jump on the intelligence bashing. Do you honestly think that the high unemployment benefits aren't keeping people from working? I don't know if it's 50% or even 10%, but those who lean left and all liberal politicians seem to claim it has no impact. I just don't buy it. Even if that means I disagree with someone a thousand times more qualified on the topic.
I think a few of you studied under Dr. Van Yperen and Professor Buunk.
mykn wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:55 pm
I believe DColeKC studied under Dr. Dunning and Professor Kruger
Nah, I'm not pretending to be an economist or know more than one. I just love how a few of you are so quick to bash any opinion that disagrees with yours and quickly jump on the intelligence bashing. Do you honestly think that the high unemployment benefits aren't keeping people from working? I don't know if it's 50% or even 10%, but those who lean left and all liberal politicians seem to claim it has no impact. I just don't buy it. Even if that means I disagree with someone a thousand times more qualified on the topic.
I think a few of you studied under Dr. Van Yperen and Professor Buunk.
Thank you for a perfect example
I knew I should kept you blocked. You never offer anything of substance do you? Just pop in with your insults from time to time. Fuckin worthless troll.
So, on the topic. Do you think the extra unemployment is keeping people out of the workforce because they simply don't want to work?
Nah, I'm not pretending to be an economist or know more than one. I just love how a few of you are so quick to bash any opinion that disagrees with yours and quickly jump on the intelligence bashing. Do you honestly think that the high unemployment benefits aren't keeping people from working? I don't know if it's 50% or even 10%, but those who lean left and all liberal politicians seem to claim it has no impact. I just don't buy it. Even if that means I disagree with someone a thousand times more qualified on the topic.
I think a few of you studied under Dr. Van Yperen and Professor Buunk.
Thank you for a perfect example
I knew I should kept you blocked. You never offer anything of substance do you? Just pop in with your insults from time to time. Fuckin worthless troll.
So, on the topic. Do you think the extra unemployment is keeping people out of the workforce because they simply don't want to work?
longviewmo wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:30 am
It is kinda rich that the guy who “earns more than Janet Yellen at half her age” is lecturing about how the poor aren’t poor in the right way for him.
I used to be poor and I haven't forgot what that was like, just like I haven't forgot what being raised by a single mother was like. I'm not against raising the minimum wage or people getting unemployment. I've only said that there's a percentage of people currently on UI that simply are lazy and don't want to work. Politicians on the left refuse to admit this, probably because they don't want to upset their voter base and because they claimed this last round of stimulus wouldn't have a negative impact on the workforce. They were wrong, just like they were wrong about it not impacting inflation.
He doesn't know, he said he doesn't know. The point isn't to establish that this is a significant problem, because the experts are pretty clear that it probably isn't. I'm not really sure what the point is. Resentment about the likely small percentage of people not going to work because they make more on UI is in there, but more than anything I think the point is to question "experts" because they don't "know stuff" the way he does. I mean, come on, it's Trumpian tactics writ small on an irrelevant internet forum.
Not surprising to see hard right support reducing benefits and hard left support above normal unemployment benefits. There are clearly some who are exploiting the benefits moreso than before COViD and there are clearly some who need it because of pandemic impacted job categories.
At this point, perhaps more selective approach to unemployment benefits makes more sense. And the reality is that those collecting unemployment in restaurant/leisure/hospitality industries need to seek other areas that are growing, such as warehouse jobs at least until dust settles. Many retail categories also returning. However there is a boost in pro services and some office jobs while still lower overall in all other categories so I lean a bit towards more than normal unemployment benefits as long as it's at this point more selective.
mean wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:01 pm
He doesn't know, he said he doesn't know. The point isn't to establish that this is a significant problem, because the experts are pretty clear that it probably isn't. I'm not really sure what the point is. Resentment about the likely small percentage of people not going to work because they make more on UI is in there, but more than anything I think the point is to question "experts" because they don't "know stuff" the way he does. I mean, come on, it's Trumpian tactics writ small on an irrelevant internet forum.
I don’t claim to know more than the experts. They make their statements based off data, research and a bit of politics. How exactly do you find out what percentage of people are simply holding out because they don’t want to work? I’d assume you can find some hard data on lack of child care but I hardly think polls and questionnaires should act as scientific data when trying to find out why people refuse to return the work. Like I’ve said, you’re not going to find a bunch of idiots willing to check the, “just don’t want to work” box when, “I’m afraid of Covid” is an option that half the country will allow you to use despite access to vaccines.
I just find it odd that what the Democrats claim as reasons don’t match up with the people I’ve talked to. I’m not saying my experience should be held in higher regard than a research study, just explaining my situation and reality.
