http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electorAs of the 2008 presidential election, there has been only one occasion when faithless electors prevented an expected winner from winning the electoral college vote: in December 1836, twenty-three faithless electors prevented Richard Mentor Johnson, the expected candidate, from winning the Vice Presidency. However, Johnson was promptly elected Vice President by the U.S. Senate in February 1837; therefore, faithless electors have never changed the expected final outcome of the entire election process.
2012 Election
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We had maybe 6 people in front of us around 7:15 this morning at the Comfort Inn at Admiral and Charlotte. Better turn out than primaries, but no delay to speak of. We were out in 15 minutes.
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Took about 5 minutes at 8am this morning at Don Bosco as a Columbus Park voter. Of course if you were coming from river market it looked like it could have taken 30-45min or longer.
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Rany Jazayerli (of Rany on the Royals) writes an extremely eloquent piece on why, as a lifelong GOP'er he voted for Obama in 2008 and again today. Fascinating stuff.
http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2012/11/ ... nd-me.html
Background for those who aren't familiar with Rany: He's an extremely skilled baseball writer, and a Muslim physician from Wichita living in suburban Chicago. His article is worth your time.
http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2012/11/ ... nd-me.html
Background for those who aren't familiar with Rany: He's an extremely skilled baseball writer, and a Muslim physician from Wichita living in suburban Chicago. His article is worth your time.
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My voting place in Southmoreland Park area had about 25 at 11:30 with almost no wait but they said they were slammed this morning with lines.
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Bovada had the line for Democrats winning at -450 and Republicans at +325, i placed a bet earlier today for the Republicans, only bet 35 bucks but it pays out 115.
I checked the line a little bit ago and it moved down to -350 to +275, glad i got locked in at +325
I checked the line a little bit ago and it moved down to -350 to +275, glad i got locked in at +325
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smh wrote:Rany Jazayerli (of Rany on the Royals) writes an extremely eloquent piece on why, as a lifelong GOP'er he voted for Obama in 2008 and again today. Fascinating stuff.
http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2012/11/ ... nd-me.html
Background for those who aren't familiar with Rany: He's an extremely skilled baseball writer, and a Muslim physician from Wichita living in suburban Chicago. His article is worth your time.
Thanks for linking his piece. Sobering truth.
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In and out in 20 minutes in Waldo this morning. Was a freaking madhouse in 2008. Think this says a lot about Missouri but nothing really else to take from it.
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EXIT POLL BOOM FOR O
R: NC, FL
O: OH, NH, PA, MI, NV
TOSS UP: VA, CO, IA
It's President Obama. Serve me my crow, please.
R: NC, FL
O: OH, NH, PA, MI, NV
TOSS UP: VA, CO, IA
It's President Obama. Serve me my crow, please.
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source?zlohban wrote:EXIT POLL BOOM FOR O
R: NC, FL
O: OH, NH, PA, MI, NV
TOSS UP: VA, CO, IA
It's President Obama. Serve me my crow, please.
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I've heard (basically just seen a bunch of headlines today) that the exit polls aren't always super reliable, so we'll see. Those wins/toss-ups seem in line with the aggregate polling prior to the election, though.zlohban wrote:EXIT POLL BOOM FOR O
R: NC, FL
O: OH, NH, PA, MI, NV
TOSS UP: VA, CO, IA
It's President Obama. Serve me my crow, please.
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Drudge. But headline now changed. Must be a tease.chrizow wrote:source?zlohban wrote:EXIT POLL BOOM FOR O
R: NC, FL
O: OH, NH, PA, MI, NV
TOSS UP: VA, CO, IA
It's President Obama. Serve me my crow, please.
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Now it says this:
Maybe he realized that people would stop clicking on his website if the election were "over" at 6:30 EST.EXIT POLLS TIGHT
R: NC, FL
O: NH, PA, MI, NV
TOSS UP: OH, VA, CO, IA
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I am still puzzled by Missouri. In 2008 it was basically an election tie. Why is it 10% up for Romney with little demographic changes and most of our views are somewhat centrist. We always fall in the middle of most national surveys of most any topic. We are also city / country balanced.
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RCP has a great one page view of all state results .... Live.
PS Not related-
RCP has a great one page view of all state results .... Live.
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If this is live polls you are basing it on then it is probably because KC and STL generally lag many of the rural counties in tallying their results. It will likely end up much closer than 10% in MO, but Romney will take it
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Yeah, RCP is a great site to see nearly everything in one view..zlohban wrote: PS Not related-
RCP has a great one page view of all state results .... Live.
http://realclearpolitics.com/
Here is a good one to watch everything in MO...
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/MO
KS...
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/KS
Am flipping around the cable news channels and CNN seems to be doing a better job down to county level reports and comparing to 2008.
Edit: The KC Star election stuff is finally up and it looks like an OK layout.
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MO lacks a large Hispanic populationzlohban wrote:I am still puzzled by Missouri. In 2008 it was basically an election tie. Why is it 10% up for Romney with little demographic changes and most of our views are somewhat centrist. We always fall in the middle of most national surveys of most any topic. We are also city / country balanced.
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RCP has a great one page view of all state results .... Live.
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Because there are a lot of dumb racists in that state outside of the KC/STL areas.zlohban wrote:I am still puzzled by Missouri. In 2008 it was basically an election tie. Why is it 10% up for Romney with little demographic changes and most of our views are somewhat centrist. We always fall in the middle of most national surveys of most any topic. We are also city / country balanced.
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Because Obama had a big ground campaign here in '08, spent a fair bit of $ and still lost the state, even in a landslide election. As a result, the Democratic National Committee has essentially written MO off for the foreseeable future of presidential contests, and spent no money/time here this cycle.zlohban wrote:I am still puzzled by Missouri. In 2008 it was basically an election tie. Why is it 10% up for Romney with little demographic changes and most of our views are somewhat centrist. We always fall in the middle of most national surveys of most any topic. We are also city / country balanced.
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Claire-Bear beats Akin. Linda McMahon (of the WWE McMahon's) spent $100 million on two CT Senate races and has lost for the second time. GOP lost a really safe seat in Indiana when the candidate made a stupid rape remark.
GOP officially can not take control of the Senate. Shaping up to be a pretty good night for Dems. Hard to see how Romney wins at this point.
GOP officially can not take control of the Senate. Shaping up to be a pretty good night for Dems. Hard to see how Romney wins at this point.