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Even if we assume some people lie, this is stunning.

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Back in July the US was 4th in the world for kids orphaned as a result of covid.

It’s the parents that refused the vaccine and their family ended up there that’s so frustrating. Their kids don’t deserve that.
Vaccinated parent who get sick anyways or before the vaccine have way more sympathy than purposefully putting yourself into that situation.

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flyingember wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:42 pm
Back in July the US was 4th in the world for kids orphaned as a result of covid.

It’s the parents that refused the vaccine and their family ended up there that’s so frustrating. Their kids don’t deserve that.
Vaccinated parent who get sick anyways or before the vaccine have way more sympathy than purposefully putting yourself into that situation.
Do they have the actual # of kids orphaned?
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As of a month ago 119,000 had lost at least one "primary caregiver" so it's under that number
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/120000-ch ... d=78931426

Up from 43,000 in April
https://time.com/5953001/covid-orphans/

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Nice chart comparing vaccination vs not April through mid July

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/ ... tm#F2_down

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Found on Reddit from a couple weeks ago. Horrible story on the impact to the children and the comments aren’t much better.
Tonight at 2000, we will admit our 6th baby born to an unvaccinated, Covid mom on ECMO. I’m currently caring for a 26wk premie who’s mom passed away last night after the family removed life support. He never met his mom- she survived on ECMO for 23 days before suffering arrest and brain damage. They have 2 other kids at home.

Tonight’s delivery will be a 28 weeker. Mom has been on ECMO for 2 weeks and they haven’t been able to get her sats above 70% for 2 days so it’s time to take baby before we lose them both. They told Dad to expect Mom to survive for a day or so after delivery.

This will be our 6th baby that will never meet their mom since Covid started. We always hear moms say they worry about what the shot will to do baby, but they never consider what not getting the shot will to do baby. I’m not sure how much more I can handle.



We don’t automatically deliver Moms on ECMO. Baby remains on continuous monitoring and if we see the baby is worsening or mom is nearing death we operate if it’s the partner’s wishes. Typically moms don’t tolerate the csection well and delivering the baby doesn’t necessarily mean mom suddenly improves, so we avoid delivery to allow baby time to grow if at all possible.

None of our babies have tested positive for Covid. We resuscitate/transition in private rooms adjacent to the ORs to avoid exposure once baby is out. We test the babies at 24h, 48h and 7 days old. They stay in isolation until all 3 tests are cleared meaning partners/spouses can’t visit until the 7th day.

I live in a very anti-vax, low education state. We are the main nicu in our city. I’m sure my experience is jaded by our higher numbers. I’m hoping those of you in higher vaccinated areas are having a much more pleasant time.

I am enrolled in a therapy program. Covid has completely screwed me up, I’ve never held so many motherless babies or taught so many young widowed partners learn to care for a baby on their own. I highly suggest reaching out for help if you’ve been absolutely shattered by caring for the Covid+ yourself.
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Last night I saw on the news a story about two unvaccinated parents dying a short time apart from COVID, and leaving behind five children.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ca ... n-n1279044

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2020 was the first year Alabama had more deaths than births (all causes). Haven’t seen any other state in that situation.

If the current pace keeps up they’re surpass their 2020 covid dead count in less than 3 weeks

41% vaccination rate

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https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/bri ... treatment/
https://www.ahip.org/health-insurance-p ... -covid-19/

The majority of major health plans will have dropped Covid cost sharing by December. That’s costs except for vaccination and testing.

The money cost of not being vaccinated is going up if it hasn’t already

If you haven’t seen this Last Week Tonight piece on Health Care Sharing Ministries, it’s worth watching with the cultural overlap between those unvaccinated and religion
https://youtu.be/oFetFqrVBNc

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Percent of deaths this summer (uses the total number of voters for both numbers, not the total number of people in each county)

10-20%: 1% of people, 0.15% of deaths. (Better than average)
20-30%: 5% of people, 1.78% of deaths. (Better than average)
30-40%: 16% of people, 6.65% of deaths. (Better than average)
40-50%: 31% of people, 26.3% of deaths. (Better than average)

50-60%: 19% of people, 19.1% of deaths. (Worse than average)
60-70%: 15% of people, 18.4% of deaths. (Worse than average)
70-80%: 10% of people, 14.9% of deaths. (Worse than average)
80-90%: 3% of people, 4.7% of deaths. (Worse than average)

90-100%: 0.04% of people, 8% of deaths. (Way Worse than average)

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Found the chart source

https://acasignups.net/21/09/12/simple- ... l-analysis

They attempt to make a 2022 midterms assessment and figure about 115k more Republicans die nationwide by then

The argument made in the article at the end is Republicans in power don’t care about those deaths if it means they can flip voters. It’s a little more than a year to the election, so we’ll see what happens. Meanwhile, people are dieing.

If accurate, it’s a horribly unethical position to take.


Edit: my assessment might need to be far more pessimistic
The people who are unvaccinated are dominated by the most stubborn, most right wing individuals

The Republicans may be trying to shift their party to the left a little, more of a 1994 party and less a Tea Party one. Getting rid of Trump voters would benefit them. It’s not like Trump helped the party in 2020, they lost a majority in both houses and the presidency. So if you figure that moderate voters are more likely to get vaccinated and they think they can gain moderates back, they may be betting against Biden and then own voters at the same time.

They likely desperately want to ignore Jan 6 as it’s their hardcore voters. The easiest way to lose in 2022 is to have Trump friendly candidates across the country. But if they can’t get past the primaries because their likely voters are dead, it benefits the party.

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flyingember wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:20 pm
Found the chart source

https://acasignups.net/21/09/12/simple- ... l-analysis

They attempt to make a 2022 midterms assessment and figure about 115k more Republicans die nationwide by then

The argument made in the article at the end is Republicans in power don’t care about those deaths if it means they can flip voters. It’s a little more than a year to the election, so we’ll see what happens. Meanwhile, people are dieing.

If accurate, it’s a horribly unethical position to take.


Edit: my assessment might need to be far more pessimistic
The people who are unvaccinated are dominated by the most stubborn, most right wing individuals

The Republicans may be trying to shift their party to the left a little, more of a 1994 party and less a Tea Party one. Getting rid of Trump voters would benefit them. It’s not like Trump helped the party in 2020, they lost a majority in both houses and the presidency. So if you figure that moderate voters are more likely to get vaccinated and they think they can gain moderates back, they may be betting against Biden and then own voters at the same time.

They likely desperately want to ignore Jan 6 as it’s their hardcore voters. The easiest way to lose in 2022 is to have Trump friendly candidates across the country. But if they can’t get past the primaries because their likely voters are dead, it benefits the party.
I don't want to go full political data here, but this last part isn't true at all. White working class voters that Trump brought in, instead of upper class voters, demographically benefits the GOP more and expands the electoral college & Senate for GOP. It took the Dems most moderate candidate to barely squeak by that in 2020. The GOP going more populist is what's helping them alot more than going moderate.

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