Poll: Power & Light District Dress Code

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Do you support the dress code in the Live! block?

Yes
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79%
No
23
21%
 
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its the standard club dress code.....no fatties, while fine by me, is not.
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KCPowercat wrote:its the standard club dress code.....no fatties, while fine by me, is not.
Fine by me. Personally, I don't particularly care what rules they want to have for their nightlife mall, but discriminatory rules are always going to piss people off. Surprise: they piss people off at other clubs, too. Sometimes people pissed off at other clubs even make the news! Astounding, I know, that other establishments might occasionally have negative publicity. However, other clubs aren't the premier entertainment district for an uber-region extending for hundreds of miles in every direction. The only thing I'm surprised about it that anyone is surprised, especially after what's been ongoing in Louisville.

Speaking of Louisville, Cordish continues to face accusations of race-based discrimination down there, and at least some of the cases are getting nasty--an employee filing suit claiming management told her they wanted a, ?predominantly white crowd? and to ?keep out the darker element.? The details in the suit are disturbing if true, and allegedly came from HQ.
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mean wrote: Speaking of Louisville, Cordish continues to face accusations of race-based discrimination down there, and at least some of the cases are getting nasty--an employee filing suit claiming management told her they wanted a, ?predominantly white crowd? and to ?keep out the darker element.? The details in the suit are disturbing if true, and allegedly came from HQ.
SHOCKER!  that must be in everyone's mind also?
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so the level of racism of the same dress code equates to how premier the bar....I didn't know it was a sliding scale.  Guess stables is free and clear.
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Let's just say that at some point You have to take responsibility for YOUR OWN personal decisions, rather than blame negative outcomes on everyone but yourself.

Grey area only exists when you allow for it.  You don't want to be kicked out of some club for improper dress, then wear a KC hat and a white T shirt.
End of story.

Let's close this thread, I'm tired of everyone going back and forth, back and forth...presenting opinion as fact (Myself included).

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LenexatoKCMO wrote: You think there is evidence that Cordish was aware that specific bouncers were engaging in impermissable behaviors and also evidence that they took no action after they were aware?  Thats what its going to take legally to make the case you are attempting to sketch out of your ass.  
I don't know if there is evidence or not.  But there is something going on, probably more that one thing going on.  There are so many stories out there, some true, some not true or at least has some tarnish on it.  Guess time will tell how it all plays out.
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im2kull wrote: Let's just say that at some point You have to take responsibility for YOUR OWN personal decisions, rather than blame negative outcomes on everyone but yourself.
Does that apply to Cordish?
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im2kull wrote: Let's close this thread, I'm tired of everyone going back and forth, back and forth...presenting opinion as fact (Myself included).
http://forum.kcrag.com/index.php?topic=11038.0
If we closed every thread based on that criteria, there wouldn't be a board left.
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KCMax wrote: Does that apply to Cordish?
Coridsh doesn't control what their employees do, they control their policys.

Going by that logic we should take the United States Army itself to a military tribunal over the deaths at Fort Hood, should we not?
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im2kull wrote: Coridsh doesn't control what their employees do, they control their policys.
They can control their employees by training, supervision, reviewing their job performance, and firing and/or suspending them for any unappropriate actions.  And if they are failing to do that then Cordish should be held accountable.
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aknowledgeableperson wrote: They can control their employees by training, supervision, reviewing their job performance, and firing and/or suspending them for any unappropriate actions.  And if they are failing to do that then Cordish should be held accountable.
That's right, but there's NO indication Cordish is not properly training, supervising, and reviewing their employees performance.  The only issue at hand here is God given Free Will...aka...an Employees Actions.
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Why isn't Cordish out there telling what they are doing with the bouncers?  Instead Cordish appears to have its head in its shell and putting the word out that nothing is happening.

Guess that is why there is NO indication of what Cordish is actually doing.
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They couldn't do enough to satisfy the public is my guess....do you know any business that responds to this?  Usually they try and keep quiet to keep it out of the spotlight.
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KCPowercat wrote: They couldn't do enough to satisfy the public is my guess....do you know any business that responds to this?  Usually they try and keep quiet to keep it out of the spotlight.
Exactly.  Internal business is best handled internally.

That's just my .02
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im2kull wrote: That's right, but there's NO indication Cordish is not properly training, supervising, and reviewing their employees performance.  The only issue at hand here is God given Free Will...aka...an Employees Actions.
What evidence do we have that they ARE properly training people?

I'm not saying they are or aren't. Just saying they should be held accountable for their actions - just like you said.
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KCPowercat wrote: They couldn't do enough to satisfy the public is my guess....do you know any business that responds to this?  Usually they try and keep quiet to keep it out of the spotlight.
so they just go into a shell while being Swiftboated.  good policy.
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email them, I am sure they can use your PR expertise
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KCMax wrote: What evidence do we have that they ARE properly training people?

I'm not saying they are or aren't. Just saying they should be held accountable for their actions - just like you said.
I think you probably realize where the burden of proof lies here - i.e not with the accused. 
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LenexatoKCMO wrote: I think you probably realize where the burden of proof lies here - i.e not with the accused. 
In a court of law, sure. But in the court of public opinion we have evidence that they are not training their employees properly - accusations of racial discrimination - and no evidence they are training their employees properly. Its not enough evidence to conclude anything, but I don't know why some people are assuming Cordish is doing everything they can.
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KCMax wrote: But in the court of public opinion
The news media already convicted them in that court within the first couple months they were open - there is no winning that case on appeal.  Caving and watering down the effectiveness of the policy isn't going to move the public opinion meter a bit. 
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