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Re: Future Stadium Plans: Chiefs and Royals

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Sounds like the big news is just that the Royals are publiclly admitting they are doing due dilligence on what to do, and that "downtown" is one option being evaluated. The will likely need a renewal of stadium sales tax either way. Sherman sure sounded like the team was happy where they were, but also said they put a lot of weight into improve the wellbeing and provide economic benefits to the community at large.

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normalthings wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:39 pm
funny that the world trusts us to host NFL Draft, weekly concerts, and other large events downtown but somehow 18,000 downtown at a Royals game is impossible for locals to comprehend.
This is such a great point.

This is also where you see a big divide within the younger & boomer generations in KC. The younger people have grown up seeing downtown as a fun place to be that can handle alot of activity, some of them have even gotten used to streetcar regularly. They have a "yes, we can" attitude because most of us have only seen success and growth downtown. Boomers and some middle aged people can't fathom or comprehend why anyone would want to be downtown or that it's really that great because in their day it was a dead zone and black hole. They're the locals who have grown up and always lived here thinking KC is still the same generic, un-dynamic waste that "can't possibly do xyz"

I would say you can even see that divide on Kcrag as well with generations on almost every issue.
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Re: Future Stadium Plans: Chiefs and Royals

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alejandro46 wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:59 pm
Sounds like the big news is just that the Royals are publiclly admitting they are doing due dilligence on what to do, and that "downtown" is one option being evaluated. The will likely need a renewal of stadium sales tax either way. Sherman sure sounded like the team was happy where they were, but also said they put a lot of weight into improve the wellbeing and provide economic benefits to the community at large.
If he's really buying into doing the economic benefits for the city, then there's no way they stay at TSC.

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Re: Downtown ballpark and condos

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GRID wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:39 pm
normalthings wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:53 pm
new stadium may be announced later this afternoon
Jazz District?
That would be an idiotic idea

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Curious that the mayor hyped up as news of the day unless there's other big news today?

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Goonies wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:15 pm
GRID wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:39 pm
normalthings wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:53 pm
new stadium may be announced later this afternoon
Jazz District?
That would be an idiotic idea
Respectfully disagree
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No real announcement. Just comments saying they were considering downtown as a location.

https://www.kshb.com/sports/report-kan ... wn-stadium

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^A bit anticlimactic but some media still spinning as best as they can for clicks. See front page of Star.

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How was that press conference worthy or a great day for KC?

Royals: We are looking at our options.

KC: Goes anti downtown stadium crazy as usual.

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KSHB reporter Aaron Ladd posted a poll on Twitter asking “Should the Royals move downtown?” that has 700 votes so far, and results are:
55% yes
34% no
11% indifferent

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About what I’d expect, Give people cool renderings and sell the dream it’ll come up

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KC Star reporter Jeff Rosen released early results of their poll on Royals tailgating:
How important is tailgating to you?
57.2% not important at all
28% somewhat
14.8% very important


One by one all their nimby arguments get brought down by data

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GRID wrote:
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Still don't see how they do it when 80-90% of the fans don't want it. It will be interesting to see what they have come up with.
This is not accurate.

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This was simply them getting the convo started. As they explore more they knew that would get out anyways so start prepping people now.

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KCPowercat wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:59 pm
GRID wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:58 pm
Still don't see how they do it when 80-90% of the fans don't want it. It will be interesting to see what they have come up with.
This is not accurate.
You may be right, but good god, the people that don't want it are super vocal about it. Maybe it's closer to 70% that don't want it. I don't thin it's anywhere near half.

I know you can't base anything off social media platforms, but it's close to 90% on social media.

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I'd bet the majority are for it. Social media is a super poor way to judge anything public opinion wise.

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KCPowercat wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:23 pm
I'd bet the majority are for it. Social media is a super poor way to judge anything public opinion wise.
Majority of who? I think it all depends on where the people live who take the poll. If it is of people who live in central KC it just might be the majority. If it is all of KC residents it just might be around 50/50. If you have all of Jackson County, and the whole metro area, I would say a large majority would say no.

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The only people that probably count are season ticket holders. And if it requires a public vote, then voters.

The question that should be asked right now is if voters would approve bonds for a new downtown baseball stadium; if voters would approve bonds for a new baseball stadium at TSC; and if voters would approve bonds to update the existing Kauffman Stadium. The answers to those three questions now would provide some direction on how to proceed.

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IIs there any appetite to re-build at TSC? I know it's private but that seems like the least likely. It's renovate or move. I would add that any renovation would be an extension of the sales tax only and it would need to fund general clean up of the area around the stadiums. The stadiums themselves are actually great in my opinion. I love Kauffman and especially after the last renovation I honestly wouldn't change a thing except location. Maybe freshen up or add more suites, but overall I love it, and I think a lot of people in KC feel the same way. I mean, it is just go to the game, tailgate (since there isn't anything else to do) then leave. A lot of people like that, and that's OK. It is convenient with good highway access. It's a really crappy part of town.

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