Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:47 pm
That does seem like a fair issue to explore. I had forgotten about Enterprises campaign against the SC.
What kind of tax is this stadium going to be financed by?
That does seem like a fair issue to explore. I had forgotten about Enterprises campaign against the SC.
They already said they aren't asking for any TIFs.
this kind of scares me because i can see it happening.
This captures it pretty well. Such a bummer that Sporting is so far out there. Limits my attendance to maybe one game a season. STL is going to have such a prime location.warwickland wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:11 pm
idea for the kansas team: the kansas oh my god i didn't realize the sporting kc stadium was in such a horrific development it's even worse than sunbelt locations which actually make an attempt at faking urbanism guess im not taking the train or spending any money before or after the game around the stadium united
the kc stadium, as far as i can tell, was the last pre-urban parking lot desert pad site stadium. houston and/or orlando built an urban stadium the next year. dallas has a suburban stadium but made a baseline effort so fans weren't left twisting in the wind in a sea of parking lots: https://goo.gl/maps/GiY9rwgs16TCMyte6smh wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:16 pmThis captures it pretty well. Such a bummer that Sporting is so far out there. Limits my attendance to maybe one game a season. STL is going to have such a prime location.warwickland wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:11 pm
idea for the kansas team: the kansas oh my god i didn't realize the sporting kc stadium was in such a horrific development it's even worse than sunbelt locations which actually make an attempt at faking urbanism guess im not taking the train or spending any money before or after the game around the stadium united
right? i guess i'm just thinking about going there for games and am not enthused with the exurban vibe...a vibe which makes me feel like i need to start fisting prozacs. it feels too much like st. charles county or something, which terrifies me.WSPanic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:31 pm Great. STL has a team for 5 minutes and they're already telling us how wrong our city is doing it. Best fans in soccer? I kid, I kid.
Looking forward to a new stadium in downtown STL. Won''t hold my breath for Sporting ownership to commit to downtown kc. Based on my experience with baseball, now that the stadium is in the 'burbs, a majority of people would actually bitch if it moved downtown. We don't do "change" here smoothly.
the frontier edge of the crossroads seems like a good place..north kc would be near-perfect, too. i know stadiums are not good urbanism but i feel like they really need to be someplace that is someplace and someplace pedestrian-connected, in any case.
I like the idea of MLS downtown because of the year long soccer calendar, the smaller foot print that is more suited for an urban environment, and for the ease in hosting other events throughout the year.warwickland wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:47 pmright? i guess i'm just thinking about going there for games and am not enthused with the exurban vibe...a vibe which makes me feel like i need to start fisting prozacs. it feels too much like st. charles county or something, which terrifies me.WSPanic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:31 pm Great. STL has a team for 5 minutes and they're already telling us how wrong our city is doing it. Best fans in soccer? I kid, I kid.
Looking forward to a new stadium in downtown STL. Won''t hold my breath for Sporting ownership to commit to downtown kc. Based on my experience with baseball, now that the stadium is in the 'burbs, a majority of people would actually bitch if it moved downtown. We don't do "change" here smoothly.
the frontier edge of the crossroads seems like a good place..north kc would be near-perfect, too. i know stadiums are not good urbanism but i feel like they really need to be someplace that is someplace and someplace pedestrian-connected, in any case.
I had a chance to speak with Sporting Ownership (Illig) about this. The main reason they moved the stadium to KCK was due to the Kansas STAR Bonds. The soccer itself is a money loosing/break even venture. It's the private events (many of which are Cerner events) that keep the lights on and allow for a small profit. Sporting KC will always need a Cerner office nearby to support the venture via private events.WSPanic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:31 pm Great. STL has a team for 5 minutes and they're already telling us how wrong our city is doing it. Best fans in soccer? I kid, I kid.
Looking forward to a new stadium in downtown STL. Won''t hold my breath for Sporting ownership to commit to downtown kc. Based on my experience with baseball, now that the stadium is in the 'burbs, a majority of people would actually bitch if it moved downtown. We don't do "change" here smoothly.
LOL...wouldn't that be hilariously awesome?