Two-tiered voting coming to Kansas

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Two-tiered voting coming to Kansas

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You may be eligible to vote for federal offices, but not for state offices. And vice versa. Not confusing at all!

Kris Kobach laying groundwork for two-tiered voting system in Kansas
The plan creates three classes of registered voters, according to the Legislative Research report provided to Ward on Thursday:
• Voters using either the federal or Kansas form and providing state-required documents proving their citizenship would be able to vote in all federal, state and local elections.
• Voters who use the federal form but don’t provide citizenship documents will be allowed to vote only for candidates running for president, vice president and Congress.
• Registrants who file a Kansas form but don’t provide citizenship documents will be put in suspension and won’t be allowed to vote in any election.
The challenge to Kansas law has grown since an Arizona proof-of-citizenship law similar to Kansas’ was struck down in June by the U.S. Supreme Court. The court ruled it conflicted with the federal Motor Voter Act, a law designed to make registration more consistent from state to state and require driver’s license bureaus to provide voter-registration forms.
Kobach’s legal analysis of the decision is that it applies to federal elections only.
“The federal government doesn’t have the authority to tell Kansas what to do in Kansas elections,” he said.
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The banana er... Kansas republic continues its slide.
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it will fail the equal protection aspect.

it creates two classes of individuals because different people fill out different forms and get different rights.

it's also in the sense similar to a literacy test. this requires you to figure out in advance if the form you picked and the documents you have work together. so you have to pass a test effectively. if you pick the wrong, arbitrary, combination, you don't get registered

it will be sued out of existence
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Unrelated to this topic, but why do polls open an hour earlier in Johnson County than the rest of the state of Kansas? I've always thought that was unfair.
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It's the self-fulfilling prophesy. Create enough confusion around the voting process, and you can label the mistakenly cast ballots as fraud. That would bump up the numbers from the 7-10 incidents per year in all Kansas state and local elections that I've seen cited.

The Kobach bogeyman is liberal illegal aliens, fraudulently voting en masse to swing elections ( :lol: ). What will be interesting to see is how many right leaning whites are collateral damage and lose the ability to vote in state elections. If a chunk of Johnson Countians are disenfranchised, that would make for some interesting news. Proving one's identity seems like it would be an easy thing to do, but my family just spent 9 months getting the paperwork of a family member who is a lifelong Kansas resident straightened out. It is an unbelievable amount of work.

Does this mean that the driver's license overhaul is finally straightened out?
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chaglang wrote:It's the self-fulfilling prophesy. Create enough confusion around the voting process, and you can label the mistakenly cast ballots as fraud. That would bump up the numbers from the 7-10 incidents per year in all Kansas state and local elections that I've seen cited.

The Kobach bogeyman is liberal illegal aliens, fraudulently voting en masse to swing elections ( :lol: ). What will be interesting to see is how many right leaning whites are collateral damage and lose the ability to vote in state elections. If a chunk of Johnson Countians are disenfranchised, that would make for some interesting news. Proving one's identity seems like it would be an easy thing to do, but my family just spent 9 months getting the paperwork of a family member who is a lifelong Kansas resident straightened out. It is an unbelievable amount of work.

Does this mean that the driver's license overhaul is finally straightened out?
From what I have read, military personnel overseas voting absentee may be the biggest group adversely affected by this.
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pash wrote:How so? Military personnel all have their citizenship documented, and it they're serving abroad, they're required to have a passport.
nope. read the section on citizenship

http://www.todaysmilitary.com/before-se ... quirements
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pash wrote:Please clarify. That supports what I wrote.
it's obvious you didn't read it. you don't have to be a citizen to join the US military. so the military documents citizenship and then sometimes doesn't worry about someone being a citizen depending on the exact position. and they still would vote absentee if they're stationed in another state

though that does remove them from being able to serve overseas due to said passport requirement.
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Military personnel all have their citizenship documented
you don't have to be a citizen to join the US military
I did not claim that you must be a US citizen to join the US military
True, but it could have been explained better or written clearer. One could imply that one has to be a US citizen to be in the US military. Especially since the talk was about voting and US citizenship.
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Wow. Impressive. You shouldn't compliment yourself that way.
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You can't comprehend?
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