Hawaiian Bros

Jackson/Cass Suburbs, including South KC
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Re: Hawaiian Bros

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KCtoBrooklyn wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:16 pm
Hawaiian Bros is planning 21 new locations, including 7 in the metro. That includes a Midtown location scheduled to open in July. Anyone have any idea where that might be?
The other 14 look to be in Dallas Metroplex

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Re: Hawaiian Bros

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brewcrew1000 wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:40 pm
KCtoBrooklyn wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:16 pm
Hawaiian Bros is planning 21 new locations, including 7 in the metro. That includes a Midtown location scheduled to open in July. Anyone have any idea where that might be?
The other 14 look to be in Dallas Metroplex
Yes, and building out fast. Which is concerning.
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Re: Hawaiian Bros

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one is being built out in Lenexa too. Sonoma Plaza.

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Re: Hawaiian Bros

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Another good midtown spot would be old gojos but would they have said Westport instead of midtown

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Re: Hawaiian Bros

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I had Hawaiian Bros today. I take back my previous review. I even liked the mac and cheese and I don't like Mac and cheese.
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Re: Hawaiian Bros

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The one on Shawnee Mission Parkway opens Tuesday. I expect it will create a traffic nightmare, with cars backing up onto SM Pkwy and blocking access to the frontage road that provides access to the Arvest Bank, KFC, Wendy's, etc.

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Re: Hawaiian Bros

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Olathe on former mall property or on 119th street.

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Re: Hawaiian Bros

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I'm just worried that they're expanding too fast and will pull a Taco Grande/Taco Tico and become a big semi-national company with 600+ locations that then spectacularly explodes. Freddy's recently felt the need to sell to a private equity firm because growth was slowing down fast even before the pandemic. The first few locations were always busy because they had a bit of a cult following and people like me were willing to drive 20 minutes to go there. I'm not sure if diluting the fan base this much this quickly is going to work... They also have a location in downtown Chicago now.

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Re: Hawaiian Bros

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empires228 wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:00 pm
I'm just worried that they're expanding too fast and will pull a Taco Grande/Taco Tico and become a big semi-national company with 600+ locations that then spectacularly explodes. Freddy's recently felt the need to sell to a private equity firm because growth was slowing down fast even before the pandemic. The first few locations were always busy because they had a bit of a cult following and people like me were willing to drive 20 minutes to go there. I'm not sure if diluting the fan base this much this quickly is going to work... They also have a location in downtown Chicago now.

I agree, I think they have been using ghost kitchens to hedge their bets and gauge demand in Dallas and Chicago before going to brick and mortar. The whole pandemic-fueled trend of ghost kitchens is pretty interesting idea from a business dev/real estate perspective to see how they pan out. I think HB is somewhat unique offering that scales well, I think they will be successful.

Ghost kitchens and delivery-only restaurants may be too popular for their own good
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/why-a-r ... ands-.html

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Re: Hawaiian Bros

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empires228 wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:00 pm
I'm just worried that they're expanding too fast and will pull a Taco Grande/Taco Tico and become a big semi-national company with 600+ locations that then spectacularly explodes. Freddy's recently felt the need to sell to a private equity firm because growth was slowing down fast even before the pandemic. The first few locations were always busy because they had a bit of a cult following and people like me were willing to drive 20 minutes to go there. I'm not sure if diluting the fan base this much this quickly is going to work... They also have a location in downtown Chicago now.
Supposedly, Hawaiian Bros. wants to get to 1,000 stores within ten years. I think your worries are well-founded.

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Re: Hawaiian Bros

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Sani wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:21 pm
empires228 wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:00 pm
I'm just worried that they're expanding too fast and will pull a Taco Grande/Taco Tico and become a big semi-national company with 600+ locations that then spectacularly explodes. Freddy's recently felt the need to sell to a private equity firm because growth was slowing down fast even before the pandemic. The first few locations were always busy because they had a bit of a cult following and people like me were willing to drive 20 minutes to go there. I'm not sure if diluting the fan base this much this quickly is going to work... They also have a location in downtown Chicago now.
Supposedly, Hawaiian Bros. wants to get to 1,000 stores within ten years. I think your worries are well-founded.
I just don't want to see them burdened with so much debt that they have to go under. I think this concept has a lot more going for it than Taco Tico, who at their peak was being lead by a former KFC CEO and was having to go head to head with Taco Bell with none of the big corporation money behind them, but a lack of competition and a higher quality product doesn't give me faith that rapid expansion is the way to go. Zoe's Kitchen tried it and now we have several vacant locations around KC-Wichita. We've also been burned by Black-eyed Pea an and a few others who tried to expand too fast in the past and now only have a handful of isolated locations. Taco Tico had around 900 stores at their peak before the bottom dropped out. Now there's a cluster between Wichita and Topeka, a cluster in northern Iowa, one in Oklahoma, and a cluster in Kentucky. Their sister chain Taco Grande reportedly had around 600 at one time, and now they have like five locations total, mostly in NW Kansas and one of the originals in Wichita. If Hawaiian Bros has the solid capital to do this, then they should go for it, but they haven't skimped out on picking expensive locations or doing expensive renovations so far.

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