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Re: North Plaza Hotel- 46th and Broadway

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:16 pm
by Critical_Mass
GRID wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:59 pm
Nice. Are they keeping the apartment buildings to the west?
This view is looking NW at the location of the bank drive-thru:

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I thought the low-rise buildings to the west are part of the Marriott Residence Inn.
Anyway, they are not part of the project area.

Re: North Plaza Hotel- 46th and Broadway

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:53 am
by Midtownkid
Mundane as hell. Looks like a suburban Aloft hotel put on top of a stack of giant shoe boxes.

Notice how they chose the evening rendering...I'm sure the daytime rendering was too boring to post.

Re: North Plaza Hotel- 46th and Broadway

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:29 pm
by normalthings
Midtownkid wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:53 am
Mundane as hell. Looks like a suburban Aloft hotel put on top of a stack of giant shoe boxes.

Notice how they chose the evening rendering...I'm sure the daytime rendering was too boring to post.
Save the Plaza killed every exciting design.

Re: North Plaza Hotel- 46th and Broadway

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:48 pm
by dukuboy1
I agree the design is a touch boning, but if it helps to add more hotel, and some retail to that corner of world great. Plus it in-fills nicely what were parking lots owned by Commerce. Better use of space even if it is a touch boring. Hopefully it will mesh well with everything else along 46th and back up the hill to St. Lukes. A lot of stuff going on in that area with the hospital and new Nursing school. It has spurred some decent development of old beat up houses and vacant land. Would be great if it contiued to creep North into Westport and fill in the spots that need fill

Re: North Plaza Hotel- 46th and Broadway

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:05 pm
by earthling
Good to see confidence in KC hotel market considering the core leaned towards overbuilt even before COVID.

Re: North Plaza Hotel- 46th and Broadway

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:31 pm
by normalthings
earthling wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:05 pm
Good to see confidence in KC hotel market considering the core leaned towards overbuilt even before COVID.
With Holiday Inn gone, this is only a net add of 50 rooms.

Re: North Plaza Hotel- 46th and Broadway

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:42 pm
by GRID
normalthings wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:31 pm
earthling wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:05 pm
Good to see confidence in KC hotel market considering the core leaned towards overbuilt even before COVID.
With Holiday Inn gone, this is only a net add of 50 rooms.
There are a lot of hotels that may never re-open. I kind of wonder if the crown center Sheraton will re-open. That building needs a major overall and rebranding anyway. Sort of a waste of a sizable tall building that used to be higher end. Could be a potential 4 star hotel flag.

Re: North Plaza Hotel- 46th and Broadway

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:07 pm
by normalthings
GRID wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:42 pm
normalthings wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:31 pm
earthling wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:05 pm
Good to see confidence in KC hotel market considering the core leaned towards overbuilt even before COVID.
With Holiday Inn gone, this is only a net add of 50 rooms.
There are a lot of hotels that may never re-open. I kind of wonder if the crown center Sheraton will re-open. That building needs a major overall and rebranding anyway. Sort of a waste of a sizable tall building that used to be higher end. Could be a potential 4 star hotel flag.
Sheraton is a 4 star flag but that is not a 4 star property anymore.

Re: North Plaza Hotel- 46th and Broadway

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:18 pm
by GRID
normalthings wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:07 pm
GRID wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:42 pm
normalthings wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:31 pm


With Holiday Inn gone, this is only a net add of 50 rooms.
There are a lot of hotels that may never re-open. I kind of wonder if the crown center Sheraton will re-open. That building needs a major overall and rebranding anyway. Sort of a waste of a sizable tall building that used to be higher end. Could be a potential 4 star hotel flag.
Sheraton is a 4 star flag but that is not a 4 star property anymore.
That's what I mean. It's just a matter of time before the tower is downgraded again.

Re: North Plaza Hotel- 46th and Broadway

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:03 pm
by normalthings
GRID wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:18 pm
normalthings wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:07 pm
GRID wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:42 pm


There are a lot of hotels that may never re-open. I kind of wonder if the crown center Sheraton will re-open. That building needs a major overall and rebranding anyway. Sort of a waste of a sizable tall building that used to be higher end. Could be a potential 4 star hotel flag.
Sheraton is a 4 star flag but that is not a 4 star property anymore.
That's what I mean. It's just a matter of time before the tower is downgraded again.
I remember seeing Weston and Sheraton listed as 3-star properties. The Loews and now Cascade Hotels may force at least one of the CC Hotels to be upgraded. Weston probably has the best location but the Sheraton could be easier since its already closed.

Re: North Plaza Hotel- 46th and Broadway

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:33 pm
by flyingember
They're dropping off some lists and a few of them pre-date the Lowes opening

Forbes lists only one hotel on their list nationally, The Raphael
https://www.forbestravelguide.com/award-winners


US News List of 4 stars

Fontaine
21C
Ambassador
Raphael
Phllips
Hilton POResident
Intercontinental
Argosy
Westin Crown Center
Crossroads
Sheraton
Downtown Marriott
Crowne Plaza
Ameristar

https://travel.usnews.com/Hotels/Kansas_City_MO/




AAA rated these hotels their four level rating (five is highest)

Argosy Casino Hotel & Spa (Riverside)
Hilton President Kansas City
Hotel Phillips Kansas City, Curio Collection by Hilton
The Ambassador Kansas City, Autograph Collection
The Fontaine Country Club Plaza Kansas City
The InterContinental Kansas City at the Plaza
The Raphael Hotel, Autograph Collection

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... he%20Plaza