Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by smh » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:32 am

Main Event

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by earthling » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:24 pm

Other retailers at risk of bankruptcy within a year or so according to this study...
https://www.retaildive.com/news/these-2 ... ar/563997/

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by MidtownCat » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:24 am

smh wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:32 am
Main Event
Would be perfect. Lol

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by KCDowntown » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:34 pm

We have a winner!

A permit came across today for a Change of Occupancy at the Jack Henry Building. The new tenant is Punch Bowl Social.

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TrolliKC wrote:
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Here are my four guesses, probably in reverse order of preference:

1) Punch Bowl Social https://www.punchbowlsocial.com/

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by flyingember » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:56 pm

KCDowntown wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:34 pm
We have a winner!

A permit came across today for a Change of Occupancy at the Jack Henry Building. The new tenant is Punch Bowl Social.

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TrolliKC wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:15 pm
Here are my four guesses, probably in reverse order of preference:

1) Punch Bowl Social https://www.punchbowlsocial.com/
The website is horrible. It even manages to connect itself to words on a truck stop bathroom in the 1980s near the bottom.

The site title is the only place they say what the place actually is.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by chrizow » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:11 am

i know nothing about that place but it looks like they have locations in about 15 other cities. looks like they are opening one next year in midtown STL as well, next to IKEA in the new development with Alamo Drafthouse.

this seems like a pretty good tenant for the Plaza, right? actually seems like something i would have expected to see downtown or westport vs. plaza, but at this point the plaza needs all the help it can get.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by earthling » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:33 am

Yeah at this point Plaza needs a broader range beyond mall retailers/restaurants and this kind is slightly off base if not questionably doable. And technically it's "off Plaza". Better fit for Westport or downtown but Plaza needs something different. Broader nightlife like small urban blues/jazz clubs are needed too.

At least it's not a Landry's concept, which I was expecting as the building owner has several of those elsewhere.

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Post by mgsports » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:02 pm

Which Landry's do you want?

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by TrolliKC » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:57 am

mgsports wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:02 pm
Which Landry's do you want?
None, but if I had to take one it'd be this with the tower

https://www.toweroftheamericas.com/

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by MidtownCat » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:36 am

Punch Bowl Social is better suited for the P&L crowd but at this stage I’ll take just about anything on the Plaza. I’ve essentially given up on the Plaza ever returning to a premier shopping destination and simply looking for ways for it not to be entirely boarded up.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by flyingember » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:49 am

MidtownCat wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:36 am
Punch Bowl Social is better suited for the P&L crowd but at this stage I’ll take just about anything on the Plaza. I’ve essentially given up on the Plaza ever returning to a premier shopping destination and simply looking for ways for it not to be entirely boarded up.
The Plaza was so upscale it had a McDonalds for decades. You're looking for something it never was and complaining it's becoming something it's always been.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by rxlexi » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:58 am

The Plaza was so upscale it had a McDonalds for decades. You're looking for something it never was and complaining it's becoming something it's always been.
I don't know that this is fair. The plaza certainly was (is?) a "premier shopping destination". Certainly before the big retail boom out south it was the region's primary upscale shopping center, and into the recent past (80s-00s) it was still the only place to find Gucci, Saks, Burberry, etc. KC metro doesn't even have these stores any more, or really any of the top tier luxe brands (to the best of my admittedly limited knowledge). When Restoration Hardware built a new flagship they did it south.

Even as retail has changed dramatically, which may be the bigger issue, it does seem like with the exception of Nordstrom, Plaza is now closer to par with other regional shopping centers rather than offering a handful of tenants that are a cut above.

We shall see how it continues to evolve. I think Nordstrom and Punch Bowl are solid choices. Made in KC Market is awesome. Would love to see a flagship AMC theater.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by flyingember » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:47 pm

rxlexi wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:58 am
The Plaza was so upscale it had a McDonalds for decades. You're looking for something it never was and complaining it's becoming something it's always been.
I don't know that this is fair. The plaza certainly was (is?) a "premier shopping destination". Certainly before the big retail boom out south it was the region's primary upscale shopping center, and into the recent past (80s-00s) it was still the only place to find Gucci, Saks, Burberry, etc. KC metro doesn't even have these stores any more, or really any of the top tier luxe brands (to the best of my admittedly limited knowledge). When Restoration Hardware built a new flagship they did it south.

Even as retail has changed dramatically, which may be the bigger issue, it does seem like with the exception of Nordstrom, Plaza is now closer to par with other regional shopping centers rather than offering a handful of tenants that are a cut above.

We shall see how it continues to evolve. I think Nordstrom and Punch Bowl are solid choices. Made in KC Market is awesome. Would love to see a flagship AMC theater.
That just made your point less valid.

Saks was open 1982-2005
Burberry replaced Saks in the same place ~2005-2018
Restoration Hardware was open 1999-2017?
Gucci is still open

So three of your stores managed to be open outside your range, one is still open and two closed within the past two years.

You're saying the sky was falling over a single year of history at the shopping center. You're making claims without having any evidence to back up your claims.

I don't know luxury brands but I sure do know strip mall brands, and they make up a tiny minority of businesses on the Plaza

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by jbean3535 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:03 pm

flyingember wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:47 pm
Restoration Hardware was open 1999-2017?
Gucci is still open
Gucci isn't open anymore and Restoration Hardware closed in August 2016.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by empires228 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:48 pm

jbean3535 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:03 pm
flyingember wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:47 pm
Restoration Hardware was open 1999-2017?
Gucci is still open
Gucci isn't open anymore and Restoration Hardware closed in August 2016.
What happened to them relocating to the Halls building? They announced it and then BAM, Leawood. Town Center Plaza is a hot mess right now too. It’s not being kept up by the new owners. Lots of vacancies despite the new Shake Shack and Restoration Hardware and the fountain has been broken for like seven years. The theater there is also bad. I go to prairie fire or Ward Parkway.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by DaveKCMO » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:24 am

Nordstrom progress:

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by kcjak » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:20 am

I was surprised to see curtains and other furnishings among the rubble when I drove by the other day. I would've thought they would repurpose more of that kind of thing, but maybe everything was in pretty bad shape.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by jbean3535 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:02 pm

Forever 21 is on their way out. Confirmed that Plaza, Summit Fair, and Legends locations are closing.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by LCDSI » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:37 pm

jbean3535 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:02 pm
Forever 21 is on their way out. Confirmed that Plaza, Summit Fair, and Legends locations are closing.
that would be a good location for a zara. it'll be interesting to see how Taubman utilizes that big spot.

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Re: Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

Post by DColeKC » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:54 pm

Punch bowl social did inquire about a PNL location but it was thought to be a direct compete against no other pub.

It’s a cool concept though. I have been to a few in other cities.

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