Plaza move-ins (ongoing)

[KCMax]

Not really the Plaza, north of there, but Tea House & Coffeepot on Jefferson has closed.

http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives ... has-closed

[msmith011]

Holiday update: I think Brookstone is returning to the former Brooks Brothers space for a seasonal store again. I saw boxes and products through the window when I was passing by recently.

I'm surprised Highwoods hasn't leased that space out to a new tenant since last season. Maybe their focus is on directing new tenants to Plaza 211? I hope they start announcing a few of those tenants in the next month or so - I've heard that's the plan.

[kcpenny]

Wasn't quite sure where to put this topic but I was curious. I was born and raised here and never quite thought much about it, but my wife is from New Orleans and asked me why do we say "on the Plaza". For instance, in conversation we'll say, "Lets go walk on the Plaza" or "Have you been to the new seafood restaurant on the Plaza?". Curious because they don't say "on the French Quarter" and now its really sticking out to me when I hear locals say it.

[PumpkinStalker]

Wasn't quite sure where to put this topic but I was curious. I was born and raised here and never quite thought much about it, but my wife is from New Orleans and asked me why do we say "on the Plaza". For instance, in conversation we'll say, "Lets go walk on the Plaza" or "Have you been to the new seafood restaurant on the Plaza?". Curious because they don't say "on the French Quarter" and now its really sticking out to me when I hear locals say it.

That's interesting, I'm not sure. I say "on the Plaza" all the time. When something is in Westport, I say "in Westport". If it's downtown, I just say "it's downtown". Interesting vernacular for sure. For downtown, it seems natural. I'm already qualifying it with the word "down" so it doesn't need an "in" or "on".

[flyingember]

We use "on" as a preposition to show a location or direction.

That shows how poor our understanding of English grammar is, and I had to look it up too.

[chingon]

Wasn't quite sure where to put this topic but I was curious. I was born and raised here and never quite thought much about it, but my wife is from New Orleans and asked me why do we say "on the Plaza". For instance, in conversation we'll say, "Lets go walk on the Plaza" or "Have you been to the new seafood restaurant on the Plaza?". Curious because they don't say "on the French Quarter" and now its really sticking out to me when I hear locals say it.

Good catch. What an awesomely coloquial construction. Hope it stays that way.

[kcpenny]

Very cool to hear other locals viewpoint. I was beginning to dissect my vocabulary and thought how odd jt must sound to visitors to hear that. I've never heard another destination referred to as "on". At least not off the top of my head.

[beautyfromashes]

Wouldn't outdoor locations be 'on' instead of 'in'? You wouldn't say, "in my back porch" or "I broke down in the highway." But, it could just be KC-speak.

[PumpkinStalker]

Wouldn't outdoor locations be 'on' instead of 'in'? You wouldn't say, "in my back porch" or "I broke down in the highway." But, it could just be KC-speak.

I thought that too, but that doesn't make sense for why I say "in Westport" (unless I'm the only one?)

[pash]

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[chaglang]

In English (and likewise in many other languages) we sometimes use "on" to indicate location in open spaces instead of the more common "in" that we use with enclosed spaces or to indicate location in some vague general sense.

It's a bit archaic, and modern usage is pretty inconsistent, but I imagine that's why we say "on the Plaza":"plaza" means "square" in Spanish, and a square is one of the commonest places with which you use the open-space preposition in languages that have them: "sur la place" in French, "на площади" in Russian, etc.

According to my wife, an east coast native, people around KC also tend to say that they're "waiting on line". As in, "I went to the ALCS and waited on line for beer for about 20 minutes." I'd never noticed it until she pointed it out.

[beautyfromashes]

Your wife sounds intense!

[aknowledgeableperson]

"I went to the ALCS and waited on line

Funny. I have always used 'in', even others I know in the ticket or concession businesses.

[pash]

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[LCDSI]

here are some additional sketches of the plaza 211 redevelopment. in general the designs aren't bad. I'm a little disappointed they are converting the 2nd floor back into parking though.

kind of surprised no tenants have been announced for this yet.

http://www.slaggie.com/#!on-the-boards/c16lg

[chingon]

Wouldn't outdoor locations be 'on' instead of 'in'? You wouldn't say, "in my back porch" or "I broke down in the highway." But, it could just be KC-speak.

No.

"I'm in Montana/Portland/Brookside today"

[rxlexi]

here are some additional sketches of the plaza 211 redevelopment. in general the designs aren't bad. I'm a little disappointed they are converting the 2nd floor back into parking though.

kind of surprised no tenants have been announced for this yet.

Thanks for the link to the additional renderings. That large space in the middle with the plate glass looks suspiciously like an Apple store.

I also really like the idea of placing a large fountain on the Ward Parkway side, as it needs some further activity and it doesn't look like they plan to build out any retail on the first floor, south side.

[smh]

here are some additional sketches of the plaza 211 redevelopment. in general the designs aren't bad. I'm a little disappointed they are converting the 2nd floor back into parking though.

kind of surprised no tenants have been announced for this yet.

That large space in the middle with the plate glass looks suspiciously like an Apple store.

Excellent observation! It would make sense too, the current Apple store is small, and often quite crowded.

[Midtownkid]

I've imagined an apple store in the middle area with the Moorish arches and and apple sign under the middle arch since i heard about halls closing.

Speaking of those Moorish arches, it appears they will be removed from the two outer doorways (if not all of them.) WHY!!? Those are pretty much the only attractive features of the building. Big mistake!

[moderne]

Agree. Highwoods is taking a mid century modern moorish jewel box and transforming it into 135th & Nall schlock.