Urban Core Condo Supply (ongoing tracker)
Urban Core Condo Supply (ongoing tracker)
Condo units for sale tracked by Reece/Nichols - monthly trend since Dec 2007...
Source
Downtown
12th/Main - 1 mile radius
2007-Dec3 Jan2 Feb9 Apr6 May2 Jun1 Aug1 Sep2 Nov18 Jan3 Feb2 Mar3 Apr2 May09 Mar10 Feb10'11
Total 369 331 519 496 477 449 370 341 403 297 327 320 365 379 356 255
>$300K 133 112 244 234 225 219 196 189 188 148 159 154 171 170 89
>$500K 30 29 53 56 42 41 37 36 46 36 43 43 46 41 22
Greater Downtown/N Midtown/etc
12th/Main - 2 mile radius
Total 473 433 591 563 552 522 427 396 593 441 465 453 475 496 451 307
>$300K 170 150 274 260 250 244 217 209 270 208 217 216 224 223 123
>$500K 49 48 72 74 59 58 54 52 79 67 73 74 74 67 44
Midtown/Downtown/Plaza/Waldo/etc
39th/Main - 4 mile radius
Total 925 814 991 946 893 847 612 568 982 782 813 773 852 891 780 594
>$300K 326 269 407 395 373 364 301 293 428 347 349 329 364 367 224
>$500K 130 125 153 153 130 130 106 101 165 144 145 138 148 140 96
39th/Main - Newly constructed vs resale, 4 mile radius
new 343 301 434 415 391 373 300 286 404 310 329 303 340 365 138 105
resale 582 513 557 531 502 474 312 282 578 472 484 470 512 526 642 489
Dec 3 Jan 2 Feb 9 Apr 6 May2 Jun1 Aug1 Sep2 Nov18 Jan3 Feb2 Mar3 Apr2 May5 Mar18'10 Feb10'11
Plaza/Westport/Southmoreland/Brookside/UMKC
47th/Main - 1 mile radius
total 299 273 286 287 257 244 136 126 222 196 186 181 210 235 276 224
>$300K 131 95 110 113 107 101 71 71 112 106 96 91 98 103 98
>$500K 65 60 66 63 60 57 43 44 70 65 61 53 59 58 49
Most of Metro
12th/Main - 20 mile radius
total 1263 1133 1357 1341 1286 1178 903 822 1309 1079 1099 1054 1173 1237 1128 866
>$300K 402 340 484 473 449 410 338 331 481 396 390 370 403 399 257
>$500K 163 157 190 190 165 152 124 119 193 170 162 155 165 148 106
Dec3 Jan2 Feb9 Apr6 May2 Jun1 Aug1 Sep2 Nov18 Jan3 Feb2 Mar3 Apr2 May5'09 Mar18'10
Supply of all homes/condos/everything in most of metro (tracked by reece/nichols)
12th/Main - 20 mile radius
15537 properties (12/13/07)
15757 properties (6/18/08)
15823 properties (6/30/08)
14931 properties (8/1/08)
14317 properties (9/2/08)
14984 properties (11/18/08)
12811 properties (01/03/09)
12391 properties (02/02/09) $300K include those also >$500K so if you want to know how many units between $300K-$500K, subtract the two.
- To determine how many units are below $300K, just subtract the >$300K units from total, not the >$500K units as well.
- There are typically several dozen sales pending included with these units numbers.
- This is not a total count of all condos on the market, only what MLS tracks. The purpose is to show the trend of supply changes.
- 'Newly' constructed doesn't just mean brand new buildings. It also includes conversions. New means new from a developer rather than resale from home owner.
Source
Downtown
12th/Main - 1 mile radius
2007-Dec3 Jan2 Feb9 Apr6 May2 Jun1 Aug1 Sep2 Nov18 Jan3 Feb2 Mar3 Apr2 May09 Mar10 Feb10'11
Total 369 331 519 496 477 449 370 341 403 297 327 320 365 379 356 255
>$300K 133 112 244 234 225 219 196 189 188 148 159 154 171 170 89
>$500K 30 29 53 56 42 41 37 36 46 36 43 43 46 41 22
Greater Downtown/N Midtown/etc
12th/Main - 2 mile radius
Total 473 433 591 563 552 522 427 396 593 441 465 453 475 496 451 307
>$300K 170 150 274 260 250 244 217 209 270 208 217 216 224 223 123
>$500K 49 48 72 74 59 58 54 52 79 67 73 74 74 67 44
Midtown/Downtown/Plaza/Waldo/etc
39th/Main - 4 mile radius
Total 925 814 991 946 893 847 612 568 982 782 813 773 852 891 780 594
>$300K 326 269 407 395 373 364 301 293 428 347 349 329 364 367 224
>$500K 130 125 153 153 130 130 106 101 165 144 145 138 148 140 96
39th/Main - Newly constructed vs resale, 4 mile radius
new 343 301 434 415 391 373 300 286 404 310 329 303 340 365 138 105
resale 582 513 557 531 502 474 312 282 578 472 484 470 512 526 642 489
Dec 3 Jan 2 Feb 9 Apr 6 May2 Jun1 Aug1 Sep2 Nov18 Jan3 Feb2 Mar3 Apr2 May5 Mar18'10 Feb10'11
Plaza/Westport/Southmoreland/Brookside/UMKC
47th/Main - 1 mile radius
total 299 273 286 287 257 244 136 126 222 196 186 181 210 235 276 224
>$300K 131 95 110 113 107 101 71 71 112 106 96 91 98 103 98
>$500K 65 60 66 63 60 57 43 44 70 65 61 53 59 58 49
Most of Metro
12th/Main - 20 mile radius
total 1263 1133 1357 1341 1286 1178 903 822 1309 1079 1099 1054 1173 1237 1128 866
>$300K 402 340 484 473 449 410 338 331 481 396 390 370 403 399 257
>$500K 163 157 190 190 165 152 124 119 193 170 162 155 165 148 106
Dec3 Jan2 Feb9 Apr6 May2 Jun1 Aug1 Sep2 Nov18 Jan3 Feb2 Mar3 Apr2 May5'09 Mar18'10
Supply of all homes/condos/everything in most of metro (tracked by reece/nichols)
12th/Main - 20 mile radius
15537 properties (12/13/07)
15757 properties (6/18/08)
15823 properties (6/30/08)
14931 properties (8/1/08)
14317 properties (9/2/08)
14984 properties (11/18/08)
12811 properties (01/03/09)
12391 properties (02/02/09) $300K include those also >$500K so if you want to know how many units between $300K-$500K, subtract the two.
- To determine how many units are below $300K, just subtract the >$300K units from total, not the >$500K units as well.
- There are typically several dozen sales pending included with these units numbers.
- This is not a total count of all condos on the market, only what MLS tracks. The purpose is to show the trend of supply changes.
- 'Newly' constructed doesn't just mean brand new buildings. It also includes conversions. New means new from a developer rather than resale from home owner.
Last edited by ignatius on Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Urban Core Condo Supply (ongoing tracker)
I know the "ugly green buildng"/4646 has had 2 sales in the last 30 days with 2 more to close in the next 2 wks (one over $1.5m set to close in the next 10 days). seems like the high end market is indeed picking up....or maybe it's the product?
Ig....also is all your data from MLS? b/c i know of another $1M+ sale in the roanoke townhomes which was not included on the MLS....I've always contended you have to take the MLS data with a "grain of salt" b/c it's not truely accurate.
Ig....also is all your data from MLS? b/c i know of another $1M+ sale in the roanoke townhomes which was not included on the MLS....I've always contended you have to take the MLS data with a "grain of salt" b/c it's not truely accurate.
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I appreciate this thread, thanks for starting it.
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I'm pretty sure some of the supply reduction is due to units being taken off of the market. Especially the new units. There is one community I have been looking at for a while that has its "new" or original units for sale but you cannot find them on MLS for the moment.
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And others could have just been leased out with the owner waiting until the market turns to put the unit back on the market.
I may be right. I may be wrong. But there is a lot of gray area in-between.
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Ask your manager why more properties are not being built if the demand is growing at a steady rate.
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This is the most expensive condo unit I've seen on the market in KC..
San Fran Tower in Crown Center
$2.5 million, top 2 floors, 4 bed, 7 bath, yet only 1 parking space??
Monthly HOA $7000! Taxes $16K
http://www.reeceandnichols.com/Listing/ ... 4&&Print=1
San Fran Tower in Crown Center
$2.5 million, top 2 floors, 4 bed, 7 bath, yet only 1 parking space??
Monthly HOA $7000! Taxes $16K
http://www.reeceandnichols.com/Listing/ ... 4&&Print=1
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Wow, guess taxes went up dramatically as this project fell off abatements.
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$16K seems cheap. My friend had a townhome in Sunset Hills (Plaza) that was about $2.5M, and his taxes were $40K.
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if your count includes windows and piper lofts, those will be off the market very soon.ignatius wrote: I've updated the first post with Aug numbers.
If the trend over last 2 months were to continue, there is only a 5-6 month supply of condos in the urban core. That's considered balanced (neither buyer or sellers market) and is much better than the 9-12 month oversupply last year. If below 5 months, that would easily justify new construction.
Downtown however still has a 9 month supply. Plaza has less than 3 months supply (sellers market) and could easily justify new construction or conversions.
The bottom line appears to be that condos are selling at a faster rate than new supply going online.
See first post...
http://forum.kcrag.com/http://www.kcrag ... 37#p339537
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aye, both of them.ignatius wrote: ^Are they going rental?
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Anyone have a range of what Windows and Piper will be going for per month?
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i'm quite sure it will be at least 30 days before that information is known, probably longer. i suspect you can bank on prices per sq. ft. similar to 909 walnut since the finish is of similar quality (although there will be more amenities).bobbyhawks wrote: Anyone have a range of what Windows and Piper will be going for per month?
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are you sure? maybe they just sold out? LOL.ignatius wrote: Condo supply tracking has come to an end. Reece Nichols changed their site and radius search is no longer available.
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Yes. Thanks Ignatius. I find these very helpful and informative.
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Some numbers from a local real estate blog...
574 condos currently for sale Downtown. Only 183 have sold so far this year. Yet another confirmation that the market has moved dramatically make to rentals this year.
http://sarahsnodgrass.com/blog/downtown ... ming-soon/
574 condos currently for sale Downtown. Only 183 have sold so far this year. Yet another confirmation that the market has moved dramatically make to rentals this year.
http://sarahsnodgrass.com/blog/downtown ... ming-soon/
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I appreciate the updates. Though I'm sure I could find the info if I tried, I find it convenient and helpful to just look at your posts. Keep it up.ignatius wrote:
Should I keep updating? If no one finds the numbers interesting, I'll stop updating.
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It only takes me 15 minutes or so to update so I'll keep at it.
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I look forward to posts like this. I may not respond, but these are the kinds of threads that keep me coming back to the forum.
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before we backed out of piper, we were told flat out that condo mortgages needed 10% down. pretty single-family homes aren't under the same restraint.dangerboy wrote:574 condos currently for sale Downtown. Only 183 have sold so far this year. Yet another confirmation that the market has moved dramatically make to rentals this year.