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swid wrote:I am as well.

If the Tiger Tail is (somehow) still open by the time the Hampton Inn opens, I'll be curious to see how(?) they'll market themselves to the hotel's guests.
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atticus23 wrote:Seeing how awesome Oak Tower's former glory is depresses. I know there wasn't much thought to historic preservation in the past, but it is truly a shame that this building was "modernized" with the stucco cladding. Was there any real reason this was done? Such as the terra cotta falling off the building or something along those lines?
A good friend of mine was doing some research on the project and came across 15-20 years' worth of construction permits for repairing the terra cotta on the tower. The total repairs over the years came to over $175,000, in 1930's/1940's dollars. There was also some correspondence about the origin of the problem. It wasn't clear if the contractor or the terra cotta manufacturer supplied the anchors holding the facade to the building, but they were extremely defective.
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chaglang wrote:
atticus23 wrote:Seeing how awesome Oak Tower's former glory is depresses. I know there wasn't much thought to historic preservation in the past, but it is truly a shame that this building was "modernized" with the stucco cladding. Was there any real reason this was done? Such as the terra cotta falling off the building or something along those lines?
A good friend of mine was doing some research on the project and came across 15-20 years' worth of construction permits for repairing the terra cotta on the tower. The total repairs over the years came to over $175,000, in 1930's/1940's dollars. There was also some correspondence about the origin of the problem. It wasn't clear if the contractor or the terra cotta manufacturer supplied the anchors holding the facade to the building, but they were extremely defective.
I had never heard that this problem was the cause of the decision to reface the building. It makes sense. For 30 years I have wondered why they would go to such great expense to 'modernize' the façade.
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Barkett had a thing for "modernizing" facades. He was also responsible for doing something similar to the Palace Clothing Co at 12th & Grand.
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For 30 years I have wondered why they would go to such great expense to 'modernize' the façade.
Consider the time when this happened. The building was mostly if not entirely vacant. Had an image of "that old building". Making the inside of building more modern also meant making the outside of the building more modern. Just tried to change the image of the building.
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Thanks chaglang! It makes sense as does akp's thoughts on the guy just wanting to change the image of the building. Nonetheless, it is a shame that such beautiful work was "modernized."
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No problem. I was kind of relieved when I saw that. At least there appears to have been a reason behind it.
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The Architecural Hsitory of KC by Ehrlich seems to debate that the problems with cladding necessitanting the rape of the building.
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At the time Alexander Barkett had been stymied in his attempt to build of 52 story bank tower. this was a time in america wher main st usa was covering up period fadcades with aluminum 'modern" overlays. At this time SW Bell had decamped to 9th locust and 11th & Oak was vacant. After the Oak Towers stripping the bright white was painted on grayish off white in 1988. Then there was a proposal to modify the setbacks with post modern deco parapets and hanging gardens on the upper setbacks.
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Oddly, this was posted today on the ‎Facebook page, Things and places we loved in Greater KC when we were much younger!

Apparently, in 1964, a small airplane hit the 28th floor of the Southwestern Bell Building (Oak Tower).

http://www3.gendisasters.com/missouri/1 ... ,-jan-1964
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FangKC wrote:Oddly, this was posted today on the ‎Facebook page, Things and places we loved in Greater KC when we were much younger!

Apparently, in 1964, a small airplane hit the 28th floor of the Southwestern Bell Building (Oak Tower).

http://www3.gendisasters.com/missouri/1 ... ,-jan-1964
There is a LOT of detail about where the victims' bodies landed. Wow. That would be totally glossed over today.
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I came across these imagines on the Jantsch Architects site.

http://jaikc.com/Residential/Gumbel.htm

This is an old image from when they were going to develop the Gumbel Building into condos. I sort of wish this had happened because they added new construction on that parking garage, or tore it out and started over.

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That parking garage has problems and will probably come down at some point.
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taxi wrote:That parking garage has problems and will probably come down at some point.
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I wish they would do it before the Gumbel Building becomes the Hampton Inn, and would do the new construction as well--either for additional hotel rooms, or a mixed use apartment/hotel development.
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Pretty excited to watch this project. So much development has been occurring on the south side of the loop, it is nice to see an older building rehabbed in the north loop. Here is an update from last week. Hard to tell from the picture. but it appears most of the rooms have been framed, but still no sheetrock.
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mgh7676 wrote:...it is nice to see an older building rehabbed in the north loop.
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Hampton Inn should be open in June.

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they really are taking their time with this one. the exterior restoration looks almost complete though.
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Re: Gumble Building (Hampton Inn)

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I noticed today on Hampton Inn's website that they are accepting reservations for the downtown/financial district location from March 1, 2016 onward.
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