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Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:47 am
by smh
normalthings wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:41 am
smh wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:35 am
normalthings wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:13 am

Southsideside will abut another propert. Oak is main/only concern.
North side abuts 3rd Street, right? Or am I thinking of the wrong location?
corrected it. my bad
Ahh yeah, that makes more sense. So we're talking the 3rd street side and the Oak side. I'd suggest at minimum the garage entrance on 3rd be eliminated. Then need to do something to address Oak side transparency. But it's early days it looks like so hopefully they have ideas!

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:56 am
by normalthings
I suspect 3rd is the hardest to eliminate.

Edit: does the nothern oak exist and 3rd street exit go to the same level? If so, lets get the 3rd street exist removed

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:03 pm
by smh
normalthings wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:56 am I suspect 3rd is the hardest to eliminate.
Also just noticing that actually it appears there may be 3 garage entrances...though perhaps one is a trash area?

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:10 pm
by normalthings
smh wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:03 pm
normalthings wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:56 am I suspect 3rd is the hardest to eliminate.
Also just noticing that actually it appears there may be 3 garage entrances...though perhaps one is a trash area?
Looks like Oak has 2 garage entrances (double bay width) and one single bay width entrance which I hope is a stair for people.

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:15 pm
by smh
normalthings wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:10 pm
smh wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:03 pm
normalthings wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:56 am I suspect 3rd is the hardest to eliminate.
Also just noticing that actually it appears there may be 3 garage entrances...though perhaps one is a trash area?
Looks like Oak has 2 garage entrances (double bay width) and one single bay width entrance which I would think is a stair for people.
**wide eye emoji**

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:15 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Definitely some room for improvement on the first floor, but I like it so far.

I thought the stepped design would be more prominent throughout the project instead of being limited to that one corner.

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:51 pm
by TheLastGentleman
I guess 4th street will never be restored now

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:35 pm
by GRID
Quite the infill project. The River Market is quickly filling up.

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:58 pm
by Chris Stritzel
GRID wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:35 pm Quite the infill project. The River Market is quickly filling up.
I was just thinking this the other day. Once all these projects are built out, River Market will be quite dense and it'll be impressive.
- 3rd and Oak
- 3rd and Grand
- 216 Delaware (Paradigm)
- Ashland
- 5th and Main Northwest
- 5th and Main South
- Atlas 303
All those underutilized lots and parking lots will be gone for a better and higher usage (people, retail/restaurant workers, and even. few office workers).

And of course, I can't forget the recently completed 2nd and Delaware project.

I'm sure something else will show up somewhere else in the immediate area soon.

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:11 pm
by FangKC
TheLastGentleman wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:51 pm I guess 4th street will never be restored now
Doesn't look like it. So ends Loftsguy's dream.

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:13 pm
by grovester
FangKC wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:11 pm
TheLastGentleman wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:51 pm I guess 4th street will never be restored now
Doesn't look like it. So ends Loftsguy's dream.
WTF happened to loftguy anyway?

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:21 pm
by DaveKCMO
grovester wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:13 pm
FangKC wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:11 pm
TheLastGentleman wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:51 pm I guess 4th street will never be restored now
Doesn't look like it. So ends Loftsguy's dream.
WTF happened to loftguy anyway?
He's still around!

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:38 pm
by grovester
Very glad to hear!

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:32 am
by smh
grovester wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:13 pm
FangKC wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:11 pm
TheLastGentleman wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:51 pm I guess 4th street will never be restored now
Doesn't look like it. So ends Loftsguy's dream.
WTF happened to loftguy anyway?
Probably managing is blood pressure by not engaging on here. Haha, I kid I kid.

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:07 pm
by normalthings
Development plan filed. Nothing new.

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:13 pm
by smh
Councilman Bunch tweeted in effect that the blank ground floor/trash area is unacceptable and he looks forward to a conversation with the developer.

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:40 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Application for 140ft height applied with the FAA. There are 5 other applications for the building mostly due to the stepped design and elevations.
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/se ... 77&row=492

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:26 pm
by normalthings
A revised plan ... will be submitted to add a level of parking spaces and more units.
Project will be heard at the June 15th CPC meeting

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 12:25 am
by Chris Stritzel
normalthings wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 9:26 pm
A revised plan ... will be submitted to add a level of parking spaces and more units.
Project will be heard at the June 15th CPC meeting
Sounds like it's getting taller?

Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 2:22 pm
by normalthings