Ahh yeah, that makes more sense. So we're talking the 3rd street side and the Oak side. I'd suggest at minimum the garage entrance on 3rd be eliminated. Then need to do something to address Oak side transparency. But it's early days it looks like so hopefully they have ideas!normalthings wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:41 amcorrected it. my badsmh wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:35 amNorth side abuts 3rd Street, right? Or am I thinking of the wrong location?normalthings wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:13 am
Southsideside will abut another propert. Oak is main/only concern.
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I suspect 3rd is the hardest to eliminate.
Edit: does the nothern oak exist and 3rd street exit go to the same level? If so, lets get the 3rd street exist removed
Edit: does the nothern oak exist and 3rd street exit go to the same level? If so, lets get the 3rd street exist removed
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Also just noticing that actually it appears there may be 3 garage entrances...though perhaps one is a trash area?
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Looks like Oak has 2 garage entrances (double bay width) and one single bay width entrance which I hope is a stair for people.
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**wide eye emoji**normalthings wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:10 pmLooks like Oak has 2 garage entrances (double bay width) and one single bay width entrance which I would think is a stair for people.
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Definitely some room for improvement on the first floor, but I like it so far.
I thought the stepped design would be more prominent throughout the project instead of being limited to that one corner.
I thought the stepped design would be more prominent throughout the project instead of being limited to that one corner.
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I guess 4th street will never be restored now
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Quite the infill project. The River Market is quickly filling up.
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I was just thinking this the other day. Once all these projects are built out, River Market will be quite dense and it'll be impressive.
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All those underutilized lots and parking lots will be gone for a better and higher usage (people, retail/restaurant workers, and even. few office workers).
And of course, I can't forget the recently completed 2nd and Delaware project.
I'm sure something else will show up somewhere else in the immediate area soon.
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Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Doesn't look like it. So ends Loftsguy's dream.
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Very glad to hear!
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Probably managing is blood pressure by not engaging on here. Haha, I kid I kid.
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Development plan filed. Nothing new.
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Councilman Bunch tweeted in effect that the blank ground floor/trash area is unacceptable and he looks forward to a conversation with the developer.
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Application for 140ft height applied with the FAA. There are 5 other applications for the building mostly due to the stepped design and elevations.
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/se ... 77&row=492
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/se ... 77&row=492
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Project will be heard at the June 15th CPC meetingA revised plan ... will be submitted to add a level of parking spaces and more units.
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Sounds like it's getting taller?normalthings wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 9:26 pmProject will be heard at the June 15th CPC meetingA revised plan ... will be submitted to add a level of parking spaces and more units.
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